KITCHEN RANGES

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:10 am

coalnewbie wrote:Yuk, my point exactly. In the beholder my friend.


You don't like the old cast stoves?

What would be your ideal stove out of curiosity ?

Don't worry about me sounding defensive. It's all in good fun. It's good to talk this all out so when I settle on something for my kitchen I won't have any buyers remorse :discuss:

These stoves aren't cheap so I want to make sure it's exactly why I want . I do value all of your opinions though. And thanks for keeping up with it instead of writing me off as an eccentric nut. Which I'm not . Just picky ;)
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:17 am

SteveZee wrote:Yep Josh, Mine is a Glenwood 208C. They come in many configurations too. Mine has a warming shelf on top but it's easy enough to remove if you like the flat top look.


That looks so good! I remembered envying your stove Steve !

coalnewbie wrote:
Remember they make laws that the rest of the US doesn't recognize or agree with.


Hmmm, and exactly where does NFPA not apply to and which town has inspectors that ignore that and which insurance companies will pay out when you burn your house to the ground, I need names now as yes, I am ready to move.


First I believe that they only deal with commercial , new construction, and major renovations involving building permits.

Why do you keep wanting a name of an installer? I'm the installer have you not figured that out yet?

Dude my house is 18th century do you really think it meets most modern codes?
Big govt. can stay out of my house btw

The fire inspector that came to my house to inspect my chimney after the liner was installed asked if I was using that old WM and saw it hooked up. He passed it. The only reason an inspector came was because I paid someone to reline the chimney and brick the fireplace up. The chimney in the kitchen is good and there is no need for a permit or an inspector to check it. Inspectors will vary from town to town and I am guessing you haven't had good experiences with them or you are a by the book kind of guy.
Last edited by Smokeyja on Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:23 am, edited 2 times in total.
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:30 am

Image

Now this is what I'm talking about! Tell this guy about NFPA ;)
I can't believe this came up on an image search!
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Visit Hitzer Stoves

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:38 am

I'd love to cruise that thing around Boston with a trailer tire stuffed in that stove. :woot: toothy
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:53 am

Again your sounding defensive but you want my favorites, hmm, not that that should matter to you but OK let me think on that for for a bit. Sunday morning is work time.
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:55 am

[quote or you are a by the book kind of guy.
[/quote]

HAHAHAHA, stop you are killing me, I've only got two ribs left.
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:11 pm

coalnewbie wrote:
[quote or you are a by the book kind of guy.


HAHAHAHA, stop you are killing me, I've only got two ribs left.


I didn't mean any disrespect or insult . It's ok to be by the book . On most things I am too as long as the book is written with common since.

I would like to see some of your favorites that's how I will learn more about these cook stoves.
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: ramblerboy2 On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:15 pm

Josh,
Did you look at the Stanley that Lehman's imports? It is similar in some respects to the Rayburn (insulated, all cast iron), vents vertically from the back of the stovetop, so no rear flue to push the stove off the wall, and costs thousands less than the Heartland.

If you travel to the UK fairly regularly, I'd try to buy a Rayburn there, if it's what you really want. The old solid fuel ones are plentiful. I believe (but you'll want to verify) that Rayburns, unlike AGA, are moved fully constructed. So you just need to get the thing crated and on a boat and a month or so later go pick it up at a port near Richmond. Probably some hassle but not impossible.

I really like that Zephyr, I understand what you mean about it sticking way out from the wall, but I'd assumed that was a given with any of these stoves because of the previously discussed NFPA guidelines and local codes. It's not old fashioned looking but, of course, the Rayburn isn't either.

Gonna have to look into these clearances; if a cookstove will need to sit 36 inches off the wall, or even 18, it's a no go for me, it would basically be in the center of the room! I'm hoping that if I strip any possibly combustable finishes from my brick kitchen chimney that I can site the stove quite close to the chimney as it is, presumably, non-combustable. I cannot believe that the solid fuel cookstoves that were installed in this kitchen for the first 50 years this house was standing were sticking way out into the room. Silly.

Josh
ramblerboy2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac MCK 508
Other Heating: Embassy Ambassador BMS natural gas boiler

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:46 pm

ramblerboy2 wrote:Josh,
Did you look at the Stanley that Lehman's imports? It is similar in some respects to the Rayburn (insulated, all cast iron), vents vertically from the back of the stovetop, so no rear flue to push the stove off the wall, and costs thousands less than the Heartland.

If you travel to the UK fairly regularly, I'd try to buy a Rayburn there, if it's what you really want. The old solid fuel ones are plentiful. I believe (but you'll want to verify) that Rayburns, unlike AGA, are moved fully constructed. So you just need to get the thing crated and on a boat and a month or so later go pick it up at a port near Richmond. Probably some hassle but not impossible.

I really like that Zephyr, I understand what you mean about it sticking way out from the wall, but I'd assumed that was a given with any of these stoves because of the previously discussed NFPA guidelines and local codes. It's not old fashioned looking but, of course, the Rayburn isn't either.

Gonna have to look into these clearances; if a cookstove will need to sit 36 inches off the wall, or even 18, it's a no go for me, it would basically be in the center of the room! I'm hoping that if I strip any possibly combustable finishes from my brick kitchen chimney that I can site the stove quite close to the chimney as it is, presumably, non-combustable. I cannot believe that the solid fuel cookstoves that were installed in this kitchen for the first 50 years this house was standing were sticking way out into the room. Silly.

Josh


Good call Josh! That stanley looks good. And I like that site.
AGA and Rayburn used to be competitors and I was talking about picking up an antique Rayburn . I will look into this for the heck of it and report back some time.

I am so back and fourth on this zephyr . One minute I like it then then the other I like it less but that's why I want to restore it and try it out. I will alter it with a sealed water tank . With Di many stoves it's hard to settle for one . I want them all. I have an idea to make the zephyr look flush on the back which might turn out well so clerk checking my thread on that. It sounds like we kind if have the same idea of how we want these stoves to fit.

Thanks

Josh
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:18 pm

SteveZee wrote:Yep Josh, Mine is a Glenwood 208C. They come in many configurations too. Mine has a warming shelf on top but it's easy enough to remove if you like the flat top look.


Very nice American set up! All match together. The ant bin was a really good find.
nortcan
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:26 pm

Hey Smokey, does the Volvo Car-Stove burn nut or stove? From the fume out of the ""chimney"" I bet for Wet Sove Size :lol:
nortcan
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:47 pm

nortcan wrote:Hey Smokey, does the Volvo Car-Stove burn nut or stove? From the fume out of the ""chimney"" I bet for Wet Sove Size :lol:


Here is the story on it

http://www.odditycentral.com/videos/man ... -cold.html

It is actually all legal! He even got permission to do so.
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:35 pm

I came across a few more I like. Mind you these are wood stoves which I am fine with.

http://www.esse.com/range-cookers/ironheart/. Ease has a few I like!

And then there is this

http://www.antiquestoves.com/devacookstove/index.htm which is really reasonably priced.
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:29 pm

Looks just like this Magnum which is a coal/wood dual fueler. They make a soap stone version too.
http://sopkainc.com/index.php/product/magnum
SteveZee
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:49 pm

SteveZee wrote:Looks just like this Magnum which is a coal/wood dual fueler. They make a soap stone version too.
http://sopkainc.com/index.php/product/magnum


Steve this is the kind of stuff I was asking about earlier in this thread! This is good looking stuff! and considering it wouldn't be our main stove it would work perfect. and wow what a price! i just might buy one... seriously!
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Visit Hitzer Stoves