The coming cashless society

Will it be a purely benevolent and good thing, or is there something nefarious lurking within the motives and intent of those who would like to see the world embrace a cashless society?

The nefarious thing about a possible "cashless society" would be the Government would have access to the knowledge of everything you purchase. Think about that. Do you want some pin head bureaucrat knowing every purchase you make? That is scary. I am sure the health Nazi's of this world would love to have this info so they can further the nanny state concept they desire.

If this happens (cashless society) you will see a huge upswing into bartering between people. Goods for services or services for goods, goods for goods ect etc etc..

I would assume that barter would be banned, with strong enforcement and penalties to be extracted for circumventing the wonderful, safe, and secure cashless society, as anyone partaking of such would probably be considered a threat akin to a terrorist. People would be trained to think of them as something much akin to tax cheats, and to use the power of "if you see something, say something" to route them out for proper "treatment" and re-education.

lsayre wrote:I would assume that barter would be banned, with strong enforcement and penalties to be extracted for circumventing the wonderful, safe, and secure cashless society, as anyone partaking of such would probably be considered a threat akin to a terrorist. People would be trained to think of them as something much akin to tax cheats, and to use the power of "if you see something, say something" to route them out for proper "treatment" and re-education.

You forgot to add the part about the identity chip they want to put in your hand, i.e. for those who have read Revelation, "The Mark Of The Beast."

Bartering is probably the world's SECOND oldest profession and the world's first currency. The government can try to ban it but that is like trying to stop the tides. Ain't gonna happen.

Still you are right about the "see something say something campaign" that the IRS/Homeland Security would run and the labels they would use as "terrorist" and "tax cheats". The only form of cashless society I will support is getting rid of the penny.

wsherrick wrote:You forgot to add the part about the identity chip they want to put in your hand, i.e. for those who have read Revelation, "The Mark Of The Beast."

I'm confident that will be part of the overall long term plan. It will likely start out far less obtrusive and more to nearly everyones liking though. Once the plan is fully implemented no one will be able to appear in public without proper documentation (carried or implanted), as hidden scanners would be placed just about everywhere, and it would be easy to flag a passerby who does not partake of the system. Everyone will feel safe.

There would be no checkout from a store. The act of merely walking out of a store with merchandise would debit your computerized bank account for the value of the items (or bring hell down upon you right then and there if your account was overdrawn).

Sweden wants to be the first nation to go cashless.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-573 ... s-economy/

And 25% of Germans are ready and willing to skip the preliminary stages and go directly to having RFID implants.

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/ce ... lants-5590

lsayre wrote:Sweden wants to be the first nation to go cashless.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-573 ... s-economy/

And 25% of Germans are ready and willing to skip the preliminary stages and go directly to having RFID implants.

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/ce ... lants-5590

Did you see the statement made in about the German's. The individual advocating this said the chip was for, "trivial," purposes. Atrocities against Humanity always seem to start with. "trivial," beginnings.
I will die where I stand before the Government chips me like a kept zoo animal.

wsherrick wrote:Did you see the statement made in about the German's. The individual advocating this said the chip was for, "trivial," purposes. Atrocities against Humanity always seem to start with. "trivial," beginnings.
I will die where I stand before the Government chips me like a kept zoo animal.

Yes, and if they are willing to have implanted RFID chips merely for trivial conveniences, just think of how much more acceptable they will be to the idea when it is touted as the means to end all crime and potential terrorist activity and bring about the ultimate liberation of the freedom of mankind.

For those who think that talk about people being chipped is just a bunch of paranoid delusion. Here you go.

Here is the Government slowly instituting big brother type id systems in various schools around the country. It seems to me as if they are attempting to get people accustomed to the idea of being marked and a slave to constant Government surveillance. When I was a child this was the stuff of Science Fiction Horror Novels and Movies.

http://www.infowars.com/some-sc-lunchrooms-use-finger-scanning-technology/

It will stop crime and you can keep all your money in the bank and nobody can steal it except the bank or the government and we all know that could never happen.

This is just about the dumbest idea I have heard of except for those in control. Government easily adds zeros to the money it prints. It could just as easily subtract zeros from your bank account.

Funny this topic should come up today. I returned something at Costco this morning and they gave me cash back. I immediately went and pick up a few things and paid with the cash. I told the clerk that it felt weird because it was the first time in who knows how long I had paid with cash. I usually use a debit card. I never really thought about the availability of the government tracing my purchases. I will now though. Lisa

wsherrick wrote:I will die where I stand before the Government chips me like a kept zoo animal.

Hear hear!!! I hope I have the courage to make the same stand. Live free or die!

I don't think it's the government that's pushing the cashless idea....although if it occurs they might take advantage of the situation. I believe it's the banks that are pushing it. They make a huge profit from debit cards, even more so than credit cards. They make up for it in credit cards from people that pay interest & late payments. It varies by business, but the banks either get a flat fee or a percentage when a debit card is used. I believe the percentage runs 1.5 to 4 percent, but let's guess an average of 2%. Let's have fun with math..... Let's say the average person makes $10 an hour and works 40 hours a week. That's $57 a day....this is just rough math, so go with me.... 300 million people in the USA... let's say only half are earning or spend their money....that's about 8 1/2 billion dollars a day spent.... 2% of that's 170 million dollars EACH DAY that the banks take in. I'm betting the numbers are much higher, but, come on, 170 million profit a day....for doing what? Of course they want a cashless society! I know around here businesses appreciate it when you pay cash. Some places will only accept credit cards up to $500, over that they want to see a check. If you put a $3,000 TV on a debit card, the bank just made $60... I think the feds should step in and mandate that no debit transaction can have more than a $10 bank fee. Just think how much cheaper everything could be if we went to an all cash society! They mention less theft with cashless...then in the fine print at the end of the story they mention cyber crime is up like you wouldn't believe.