Glenwood 6 Restoration

dlj wrote:

echos67 wrote:
DJ, I did not know that these fire pots were that stout although they are very heavy. Mine appears to be in very good shape but I figure why not keep it that way.

Just curious,
When you were using yours without a liner in it did you notice more heat at the same temps you run now with a liner ?
What is the thickness of the liner in your fire pot ?
Last year when I ran the Summit without a liner the fire pot actually started to glow, did your glue wood ever do that and at what temp ?

Yes, best to keep it in as good a shape as you can. The ceramic liner is a really good way to go.

I'm not sure how thick the liner in my fire pot is, 3/8" would be a guess?

I used to run my Glenwood quite hot when I was in the house tending the fire. Many nights I ran with the whole fire pot running a dull red, or a bit more. Can't tell you what the temperature was, I never ran a thermometer on my stove until about 4 years ago. Then I got one and put it on my stove. It was just a few weeks ago that I actually bought a second thermometer and put it on my chimney. Now I'm starting to see just how low I run my stack temperature compared to my stove temperature. Right now my Glenwood is running about 350 on the side of my stove and barely 100 on the stack. When it was colder last week, I was running my stove temp at about 550 and my stack temp was hitting about 130. I'm going to start keeping notes on it.

These temperatures are pretty low. I wish I had thermometer readings from before. My gut feeling is there is a slight decrease in the temperature output with the ceramic liner in place compared to without. But I don't have any numbers. From the past few years when I've been running the thermometer, I'd say the stove must have been running up around 800 to 900 on the side wall up top to have the base running the dull red color. I find it difficult to run those high temperatures with coal, you need to be burning wood to get up that high. The Glenwood is hard to push over about 725 on the side wall with coal. When it gets real cold here, I will have the stove running 650 to close to 700 with coal, but it's hard to go above that in what I'd call steady state burning with coal. I don't think I'd have any problem running a 100 to 200 degrees hotter with wood, would just have to feed it every 3 or 4 hours.

dj

nortcan wrote:Very good job on the fire pot liner. Will last forever!
Chrome Black Lake,
Tel. 1.418.423.5057
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P/S, sorry for the long delay, I didn't see this before today

wsherrick wrote:Very nice Nephew. If you don't bang the liner with a poker, it will last for many years. Remember to cure it first with a few small fires.

echos67 wrote:

nortcan wrote:Very good job on the fire pot liner. Will last forever!
Chrome Black Lake,
Tel. 1.418.423.5057
Fax. 1.418.423.6911
P/S, sorry for the long delay, I didn't see this before today

Thanks Pierre I will call NuChrome again today if I get a chance and see if he is up and running yet, if not I will call your guys. Your plating looked really great on the Bride from the pictures, still no issues and your very happy with it ?

SteveZee wrote:Keith, No thanks needed my Brother in coal. I know well enough that you and many other of our friends here would do the same and have done. Paying it forward is our motto.

Now to the liner: You did an outstanding job! That looks to have come out allot better then mine did! We learn as we go but I can tell you that the next time I have the stove apart, I may "reline" mine over again and go thinner this time. Mine is a full inch and could have been a bit smoother too. If and when I redo it, I'll go half of that (1/2") and get some of that coal capacity back too. On the other hand I know my pot is well protected and insulated and the stove seems to have plenty of output for my space. Great job and the sides look very smooth and even. Did you use the wet sponge/scotchbright technique?

nortcan wrote:

echos67 wrote:

nortcan wrote:Very good job on the fire pot liner. Will last forever!
Chrome Black Lake,
Tel. 1.418.423.5057
Fax. 1.418.423.6911
P/S, sorry for the long delay, I didn't see this before today

Thanks Pierre I will call NuChrome again today if I get a chance and see if he is up and running yet, if not I will call your guys. Your plating looked really great on the Bride from the pictures, still no issues and your very happy with it ?

Keith, the nickel is ""show Grade"" from that shop. Plus they made some works on parts on the Bride and also on the Sunnyside to restore them as day one. They just do the job as YOU want it to be done...they make many jobs for peoples in USA.

echos67 wrote:
That is seriously cranking out some heat at those temps, I bet you had a hard time getting within 3' of the stove when it ran those temps , still another first hand experience of what these base heaters are capable of.

Those thermometer readings are very impressive on the flue in relation to the stove temp, it sure shows the amount of heat going into the house as opposed to out the flue.

dlj wrote:

echos67 wrote:
That is seriously cranking out some heat at those temps, I bet you had a hard time getting within 3' of the stove when it ran those temps , still another first hand experience of what these base heaters are capable of.

Those thermometer readings are very impressive on the flue in relation to the stove temp, it sure shows the amount of heat going into the house as opposed to out the flue.

I used to sit on my sofa that was in front of the stove but on the other side of the room and bask in the heat... Back then I never even thought about things like "longevity of the stove" or "don't over heat the metal"... I could get that stove cooking and get real toasty... Was living in an old Victorian house with what must have been 10 foot ceilings... And no insulation...

It's been really interesting to watch the flue temps with my newly installed thermometer. I'll open up the back valve when stoking the fire up and the flue temp will climb up to 300 - 400 degrees or so. Flip the lever with the fire how I want back to base burner mode and watch the flue temp just drop right down...

dj

SteveZee wrote:Keith, No thanks needed my Brother in coal. I know well enough that you and many other of our friends here would do the same and have done. Paying it forward is our motto.

Now to the liner: You did an outstanding job! That looks to have come out allot better then mine did! We learn as we go but I can tell you that the next time I have the stove apart, I may "reline" mine over again and go thinner this time. Mine is a full inch and could have been a bit smoother too. If and when I redo it, I'll go half of that (1/2") and get some of that coal capacity back too. On the other hand I know my pot is well protected and insulated and the stove seems to have plenty of output for my space. Great job and the sides look very smooth and even. Did you use the wet sponge/scotchbright technique?

wsherrick wrote:
It's simply amazing isn't it. To have a stove cooking along at 600 degrees and the stack temp. be 120-130.

nortcan wrote:

SteveZee wrote:Keith, No thanks needed my Brother in coal. I know well enough that you and many other of our friends here would do the same and have done. Paying it forward is our motto.

Now to the liner: You did an outstanding job! That looks to have come out allot better then mine did! We learn as we go but I can tell you that the next time I have the stove apart, I may "reline" mine over again and go thinner this time. Mine is a full inch and could have been a bit smoother too. If and when I redo it, I'll go half of that (1/2") and get some of that coal capacity back too. On the other hand I know my pot is well protected and insulated and the stove seems to have plenty of output for my space. Great job and the sides look very smooth and even. Did you use the wet sponge/scotchbright technique?

Steve you restoration job and the fire pot liner are excellent. A good thing about this forum is that we can learn so much from each other one.
If I never saw this forum, I probably would still be burning wood If an info can helps one person it is a win.