Glenwood 6 Restoration

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:29 pm

grumpy wrote:Is the install going to be inspected, did you pull a permit?


I was not planning on either, have some insight I may need before proceeding ?

I also plan on taking this stove when we sell this house so all that will be left is the hearth.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Glenwood No. 6.

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:59 pm

Keith it looks great and I hope you are having fun with the restore. I dont think you need to worry about an inspection or permit I don't know how MD works but the only time we need them here in VA is if a company is doing the work . Permits are just a way for the counties to make more money .

As far as anyone is concerned the stoves came with the house ;) .
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:00 pm

Smokeyja wrote:Keith it looks great and I hope you are having fun with the restore. I dont think you need to worry about an inspection or permit I don't know how MD works but the only time we need them here in VA is if a company is doing the work . Permits are just a way for the counties to make more money .

As far as anyone is concerned the stoves came with the house ;) .


Thanks Josh,

The stove restoration was a lot of fun, just need to send out the nickel parts for plating now, and I got pricing back today for that so I just need to verify a couple things before shipping off. I see you have a new project, the Zepher looks nice :D .

I really don't need an inspector here and finding other items to flex his authority on if you know what I mean, so common sence will probably have to prevail and that's why I am seeking information.

The window trim has me a little baffled but maybe the coil stock wrap with an air gap between it and the trim is ok ?
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Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:29 am

echos67 wrote:
Smokeyja wrote:Keith it looks great and I hope you are having fun with the restore. I dont think you need to worry about an inspection or permit I don't know how MD works but the only time we need them here in VA is if a company is doing the work . Permits are just a way for the counties to make more money .

As far as anyone is concerned the stoves came with the house ;) .


Thanks Josh,

The stove restoration was a lot of fun, just need to send out the nickel parts for plating now, and I got pricing back today for that so I just need to verify a couple things before shipping off. I see you have a new project, the Zepher looks nice :D .

I really don't need an inspector here and finding other items to flex his authority on if you know what I mean, so common sence will probably have to prevail and that's why I am seeking information.

The window trim has me a little baffled but maybe the coil stock wrap with an air gap between it and the trim is ok ?



So the coil stock you are speaking of is just rolled flashing correct? I just wanted to make sure we are talking about te same stuff here. Are you planning on using it around the sides closest to the stove and break it 90 over the trim while leaving a 1" gap around the trim? And then are you placing the hardie backer right up to the window edge and then the masonry over that?

Or am I way off? And what about the coil stock has you baffled?

If you are putting masonry right to the edge of the window why not pull the trim off the one side put the backer up to it and then the flashing. That way you don't have to try and cover the trim.
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:33 am

Smokeyja wrote:
echos67 wrote:
Smokeyja wrote:Keith it looks great and I hope you are having fun with the restore. I dont think you need to worry about an inspection or permit I don't know how MD works but the only time we need them here in VA is if a company is doing the work . Permits are just a way for the counties to make more money .

As far as anyone is concerned the stoves came with the house ;) .


Thanks Josh,

The stove restoration was a lot of fun, just need to send out the nickel parts for plating now, and I got pricing back today for that so I just need to verify a couple things before shipping off. I see you have a new project, the Zepher looks nice :D .

I really don't need an inspector here and finding other items to flex his authority on if you know what I mean, so common sence will probably have to prevail and that's why I am seeking information.

The window trim has me a little baffled but maybe the coil stock wrap with an air gap between it and the trim is ok ?



So the coil stock you are speaking of is just rolled flashing correct? I just wanted to make sure we are talking about te same stuff here. Are you planning on using it around the sides closest to the stove and break it 90 over the trim while leaving a 1" gap around the trim? And then are you placing the hardie backer right up to the window edge and then the masonry over that?

Or am I way off? And what about the coil stock has you baffled?

If you are putting masonry right to the edge of the window why not pull the trim off the one side put the backer up to it and then the flashing. That way you don't have to try and cover the trim.


That's what I needed, I was stuck on stupid !

The trim will come off and backer can replace it with the coil stock bent at 90* being the finish look over the backer board nearest the stove. Perfect, Thanks Josh :D
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Stove/Furnace Make: Glenwood No. 6.

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:48 am

Awesome! I'm glad I could help.

I know how it is. I'm still stuck on what I'm doing for my wall and hearth.

Btw they should sell flashing prebent at different lengths, in white , if you didn't want to mess with putting a break in the coil stock.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:20 am

Smokeyja wrote:Awesome! I'm glad I could help.

I know how it is. I'm still stuck on what I'm doing for my wall and hearth.

Btw they should sell flashing prebent at different lengths, in white , if you didn't want to mess with putting a break in the coil stock.


Good to know, I am going to grab some materials today to start the frame of the hearth so I can check at HDepot when I am there.

Still need to find a tile color and style as well, i was thinking slate at first but it doesn't give enough contrast between it and the stove so maybe something lighter in color.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Glenwood No. 6.

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:54 am

I have slate tiles surrounded by bricks on my "stage" as we call it for the 116. I used some small rubber pucks under the feet to avoid scratching. Same with the Hod too. It sits on a spare piece of tile next to the stove. Just avoids scratching up the slates.
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Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:20 am

SteveZee wrote:I have slate tiles surrounded by bricks on my "stage" as we call it for the 116. I used some small rubber pucks under the feet to avoid scratching. Same with the Hod too. It sits on a spare piece of tile next to the stove. Just avoids scratching up the slates.


I thought of doing brick, it would actually match the fireplace at the other end of the house but man doing individual bricks would be a lot of work, very tedious and time consuming :lol: so I'm thinking tile in a size of 12x24 to make the install quicker.

The hearth or "stage" is around 66"x66" I will have the final dimension when I get the tiles on hand but I think it's big enough to make the 12x24 tile size look good, and it isn't the more common 12x12 size that way.

Good idea on the rubber pucks, I will use that idea.

How high is the stage Steve, I was thinking mine will end up around 7" above the floor. Is this good or should I make it higher with 9' ceilings ?
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Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:49 am

echos67 wrote:
SteveZee wrote:I have slate tiles surrounded by bricks on my "stage" as we call it for the 116. I used some small rubber pucks under the feet to avoid scratching. Same with the Hod too. It sits on a spare piece of tile next to the stove. Just avoids scratching up the slates.


I thought of doing brick, it would actually match the fireplace at the other end of the house but man doing individual bricks would be a lot of work, very tedious and time consuming :lol: so I'm thinking tile in a size of 12x24 to make the install quicker.

The hearth or "stage" is around 66"x66" I will have the final dimension when I get the tiles on hand but I think it's big enough to make the 12x24 tile size look good, and it isn't the more common 12x12 size that way.

Good idea on the rubber pucks, I will use that idea.

How high is the stage Steve, I was thinking mine will end up around 7" above the floor. Is this good or should I make it higher with 9' ceilings ?


What about some natural stone tile? You can also get brick siding which is real brick but cut a little over a half so it be pretty easy to lay.

Just ideas for you. I've thought of using the brick siding on the flooring for my hearth. You should look into into lime mortar as well. It is very easy to mix and smooth plus it has a lot better properties than Portland cement. It breaths and never molds unlike Portland which will if exposed to enough moisture. After its set you can come back with a wire brush and smooth it all real easy.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:13 pm

Keith, Mine is one brick tall laid on end which is about 7 &1/2".
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Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:19 pm

SteveZee wrote:Keith, Mine is one brick tall laid on end which is about 7 &1/2".



Thanks Steve,
Sounds Like 7" will be fine then.

The wife and I went and picked out some tile today and brought it home, decided to do the Herringbone pattern so the wall tiles will line up correctly. Now to grab some lumber and start framing the hearth in the evenings this week, and remove that damn pellet stove pipe :oops: .

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Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:33 pm

Smokeyja wrote:
echos67 wrote:
SteveZee wrote:I have slate tiles surrounded by bricks on my "stage" as we call it for the 116. I used some small rubber pucks under the feet to avoid scratching. Same with the Hod too. It sits on a spare piece of tile next to the stove. Just avoids scratching up the slates.


I thought of doing brick, it would actually match the fireplace at the other end of the house but man doing individual bricks would be a lot of work, very tedious and time consuming :lol: so I'm thinking tile in a size of 12x24 to make the install quicker.

The hearth or "stage" is around 66"x66" I will have the final dimension when I get the tiles on hand but I think it's big enough to make the 12x24 tile size look good, and it isn't the more common 12x12 size that way.

Good idea on the rubber pucks, I will use that idea.

How high is the stage Steve, I was thinking mine will end up around 7" above the floor. Is this good or should I make it higher with 9' ceilings ?


What about some natural stone tile? You can also get brick siding which is real brick but cut a little over a half so it be pretty easy to lay.

Just ideas for you. I've thought of using the brick siding on the flooring for my hearth. You should look into into lime mortar as well. It is very easy to mix and smooth plus it has a lot better properties than Portland cement. It breaths and never molds unlike Portland which will if exposed to enough moisture. After its set you can come back with a wire brush and smooth it all real easy.


Natural Stone is my favorite by far, are you getting ready to finish the area by your stove soon ?
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Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:20 pm

Keith it looks great so far!

Yes I am getting ready to do my hearth soon . I am doing sort of the same thing as far as laying tile on the floor goes. First I need to use 3/8" hardie board to lay on the floor and then that will raise up a level surface to the existing hearth (brick) which I will then lay tile or brick upon .

I don't know if you remember what my area looked like but I have to choose to keep the original lime and brick chimney exposed or cover it with another Masonry material.

I will need to pull up an old thread on this and start on mine again but a lot of it relies on what stove I wanted to keep there perminant. The WM is great but I want longer burn times. I wanted to get a base heater still but I haven't chosen exactly which one yet. I will be happy with a WM 523 which I hope to acquire sometime. But I will make the hearth wide and long enough for a future base heater.

As you can see I have a lot of work. This was once covered in a sheet of lime plaster which consisted of lime, aggregate, and horse hair. The company that bricked up the fireplace that had been poorly done didn't match my lime color which pissed me off. I spent a lot of time researching line mortar and sent off samples to the Virginia lime works and they sent me back exact matches and lot numbers so I can order the lime mortar when I get around to it. I have to also repoint the outside of this chimney which is huge lol.

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I am interested in reading through your successes with this hearth and any problems or tips you might have . I have never laid tile and I have only laid brick as pavers so this will be my first attempt at all this.

Keep up the good work!
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: Glenwood 6 Restoration

PostBy: echos67 On: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:25 pm

That area just needs alittle love is all Josh, it will be much better when your finished im sure. Too bad about the colors not matching, are you going to reface the whole thing now or redo all the motor through out ?

By the time i got some more material picked up tonight, got home then, unloaded it all and gathered up some tools I did not get very far on the frame work of the hearth this evening but it is started at least. I will just keep plugging away at it over the next couple evenings and hope to make some progress this weekend.

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The frame when completed will be covered with the tile, I added a couple vents in the center to allow movement of air for when the stove is cranking. I may not even need them but I thought now was a good time to add them since after the tile was placed it would be alot harder. They are just placed in the openings to see how they looked.

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