Third Debate

Re: Third Debate

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:38 am

Dann757 wrote:
jpete wrote:Which benefits are those?

The PATRIOT Act? Trillions in debt? Medicare Part D? No Child Left Behind, maybe?


Very funny but you have to bash Bush because you can't defend Obama.


I'm not trying to defend Obama. I bash Bush because he was as big an A-hole as you claim Obama and Clinton are.

They are all A-holes. Americans love A-holes.
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:59 am

It really saddens me that someone would LUMP AMERICANS into one catagory when post after post, they show they don't have a clue. My suggestion would be to come out of that teeny lil comfort box & stop thinking they are qualified in any way shape or form to be critical of anyone/ anything. Those that live in glass houses :blah: Please stop hiding behind your personal interpretation of the CONSTITUTION---learn to listen/ listen to learn
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:06 am

freetown fred wrote:It really saddens me that someone would LUMP AMERICANS into one catagory when post after post, they show they don't have a clue. My suggestion would be to come out of that teeny lil comfort box & stop thinking they are qualified in any way shape or form to be critical of anyone/ anything. Those that live in glass houses :blah: Please stop hiding behind your personal interpretation of the CONSTITUTION---learn to listen/ listen to learn


The Constitution was written for the PEOPLE. As such, I'm perfectly qualified to "interpret" the Constitution.

When you can show me where in the Constitution it calls for a standing army and troops all over the world, billions in foreign aid, and any number of other things the government does, then you can be right and I'll be wrong.

Until then, my information says I'm right.

Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.

James Madison
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:19 am

As long as you keep beleiving that ideas from over 200 yrs ago are still or were ever meant to be carved in stone for this day & age, you will beleive whatever wish. I just hope that as you grow, you will find that being RIGHT is not always that important, at least not when dealing with the masses. Yes, you can interpret anything you want, my point was---don't pigeon hole "AMERICANS", for that, you are far from qualified as I am not. When we become legends in our own minds, the topic tends to get lost.
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:30 am

I find it odd that people that have degrees in Constitutional Law find it hard to agree on the interpretation & some of the FF even wanted it rewritten every 19 years or so to keep up with the times but right here on the coal forum we have a self proclaimed resident expert on the Constitution. It does give everyone their right to do so but I don't think it qualifies anyone, JMHO. It's always nice to have a friendly discussion on any # of topics but for the most part stuff like politics, laws & such it's all just different opinions & far from what may necessarily be. Even the chosen ones that are running for POTUS don't have the understanding & openly express that by constantly changing.
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:07 am

jpete wrote:The Constitution was written for the PEOPLE. As such, I'm perfectly qualified to "interpret" the Constitution.


Then why do most of us dispute your qualifications? You had me fooled for a while too. Blue collar, no scholar.
Obama studied the constitution to help him destroy it. Seems to me the constitution is a very positive document. We all know what congress' approval rating is. It's frustrating.
The libs are all gathering the firewood of Romney is a flip-flopper wahhhh. But it's wet firewood and it won't light.
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:20 am

Dann757 wrote:
jpete wrote:The Constitution was written for the PEOPLE. As such, I'm perfectly qualified to "interpret" the Constitution.


Then why do most of us dispute your qualifications? You had me fooled for a while too. Blue collar, no scholar.
Obama studied the constitution to help him destroy it. Seems to me the constitution is a very positive document. We all know what congress' approval rating is. It's frustrating.
The libs are all gathering the firewood of Romney is a flip-flopper wahhhh. But it's wet firewood and it won't light.


It's flaming if half the country knows and is concerned about Romney's flip/floppping.
I don't understand why you think it's ok, or Lib wining, that Romney has flop/flopped on so many importent positions? Either you feel like he didn't and they are mis-informed, or he did but that's ok with you?
If so, that's not very leader like and shows weak indecision at it's very least Dann, and at it's worst, Romney will do anything, say anything depending on who he's talking to, to get a vote.
It's looks to me like you love the Constitution. I applaud you for that, but (IMO) it's become a bit like a Bible. If you "interpret" it literally, then Jeff is right about the standing Army etc... If not and you decide to interpret it for modern times as Fred mentioned, then it becomes a slippery slope argument that is open to the same scutiny/interpretations that differing sects of Christianity apply to the Bible to suit their cause.
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:53 am

Exactly SZ. My ultimate personal conclusion is that BO has nowhere lived up th his promises in the past 4 yrs & it's time for someone else to give it a shot. I really wouldn't care if it was Romney or Joe the plumber--BO has not kept his word--simple as that to me--we can all sit on here & mind *censored* ourselves for--what--8 more days???? To no availe
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:12 am

freetown fred wrote:Exactly SZ. My ultimate personal conclusion is that BO has nowhere lived up th his promises in the past 4 yrs & it's time for someone else to give it a shot. I really wouldn't care if it was Romney or Joe the plumber--BO has not kept his word--simple as that to me--we can all sit on here & mind *censored* ourselves for--what--8 more days???? To no availe

No doubt Fred! All of our ranting and raving is tantamount to P***in in the Sandy! :lol: :clap: As a collective, we'll choose on the 6th. I'm voting early since I just found out I could go down to the Town hall and cast. :D
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Re: Third Debate

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:31 am

Dann757 wrote:Seems to me the constitution is a very positive document. .


Seems to me it's a list of negatives.

"Congress shall make no law...."

"...shall not be infringed."

Etc, etc.

So you say I'm not scholar, which I might agree, it's really more of a hobby. The back of my toilet is stacked with books about economics, how about you? :D

But then you say Obama IS a scholar but only to destroy the document, which I also might agree, even though I suspect Ive spent more time reading about it than he has.

So WHO in your learned opinion IS qualified to "interpret" the Constitution while also upholding it?
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