gm bailout screwed non union workers

gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:55 pm

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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:27 pm

This happens every day...

it is simply eaiser for companies to remove benefits at their will or under reconstruction from those employee's who are not represented by a Union and have a contract.

Right or wrong (and in all these cases wrong of course)....

that is it in a nutshell.

I lost my pension when the company I worked for was bought out... shortly after the buyout anyway I should say. yet employees at my company who are / were represented at that time have their Pensions and in fact continue to bargain to keep them year in an out.... not fair at all to the rest of us but that is the way things are going.

So its not just GM.. its all over you just don't read about it every day.
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:37 pm

Imagine that---govt./union in bed together-- I'm not saying all, but way to much dead weight in both :(
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: 331camaro On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:06 pm

Deff too much dead weight in both with no way to trim the fat in Sight
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:25 pm

The question is who was it that screwed who & if you follow the money where does it lead? http://truth-out.org/progressivepicks/i ... b-to-china
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:52 pm

HAHAHAHA what a crock. Lefty links over and over again. Think somebody will ever take a site like that seriously?

Freakin hypocrites claiming non-bias. Hurry Sam, save the planet ohhhh

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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:14 pm

:lol: Zero agenda there aye? :lol:

Funny .... unions were big Obama supporters in '08. Hmmmmmmmmm ...... :gee: Naw, nothing fishy at all there. GM "needed" to be bailed out with our money, after all .... or else ... they'd go out of business! :o :lol:
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:43 pm

If there are just two sides (union & Co.) no matter what you do you are bailing both out or allowing both to fail, how can you claim one was favored over the other?
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:41 pm

Who really got screwed when obama gave GM to the unions was the bond holders who by law were supposed to be paid first. This clown has got to go.
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:50 am

501(c)3 is Obama's new way of funding liberal news outlets that cannot stand solvent on their own two legs by letting them pay no taxes.


Dann757 wrote:HAHAHAHA what a crock. Lefty links over and over again. Think somebody will ever take a site like that seriously?

Freakin hypocrites claiming non-bias. Hurry Sam, save the planet ohhhh

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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:46 am

gm bailout screwed non union workers


Isn't that precisely what the unions intended?

The bailout also screwed the GM bond holders who were legally first in line. But then again, what's the value of blind justice serving courts and the objective law that they stand upon (or rather, once stood upon) to a Marxist/Fascist leaning leftist? Of course, the establishment Republicans (being Fascist/Marxist leaning rightists) would have bailed out GM as well, but....
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Re: gm bailout screwed non union workers

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:18 am

Seems all the dealerships they decided to close after the bailout did NOT support Obama .... :gee: 2 of them near me closed - they'd been around here for close to 50 years.
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