Taco 007 series pumps ?

Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:10 pm

i don't have the IFC model of the 007 pumps, yet i compared them, at local supply house. mine are newer style about a year old, and the IFC valve itself is seated in the flange end of housing. theres a groove in the housing that it snaps into. ?? is my pumps have the groove in the neck by flange. Can i buy the IFC kit and install them in my pumps? 007-f5 are my model P/N. looked up all other parts at tacos website, cartridge assy, capicator or PC board, flange gasket sets are same parts, either IFC or non IFC pump. Taco doesn't list housing for either though. well by flange on mine are machined inside and grooved. Anyone know?
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:08 pm

It might be easier to use a separate flow check valve, rather than trying to find one for the Taco 007 circulator.
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:50 pm

I haven't seen one of those for 7 years - that's how long it's been since I installed the indirect boiler, which came with the 007 IFC. I had no idea it had that and installed a separate one. :roll: What a waste!

From what I remember, it was just this white plastic thing that snapped into one side of the pump. Can't remember if there were any grooves in there. I would imagine there is, since that plastic valve floating around in your heating system would wreak havoc.
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: creek44 On: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:51 pm

This Wilo Check Flange should accomplish what you are trying to do at a very reasonable cost. It comes in other sizes than just 3/4". I recently purchased a few of these flanges and checked their fit on a 007 f5 flange.

http://www.pexsupply.com/Wilo-2705085-3 ... Flange-Set
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: dh1200s On: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:37 am

I called TACO several months ago and explained that a few of my pumps had a grove machined in the output flange and asked would the Taco IFC kit work with my pumps. I believe if memory serves me right based on date of Mfg. the IFC kit would not work in the machined grove it was not deep enough for the retainer of the IFC.

Give them a call and ask to speak to a service eng. and review if you can use the Taco IFC kit.

I went with the Webstone iso flange with spring check for all pumps as I mentioned in my WL110K install post, they cost more for sure. Couple of pics to show the IFC installed and removed………..Dick

3/4" Full Port Brass Isolator Uni-Flange Ball Valve w/ Integral Spring Check

http://www.pexsupply.com/Webstone-52403-3-4-Full-Port-Brass-Isolator-Uni-Flange-Ball-Valve-w-Integral-Spring-Check
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:45 am

When I designed my hydronic heating system 10+ years ago I used Taco cast iron 007 pumps and external check valves. The valves are the non spring loaded types that depend on the weight of the valve to stop flow. My experience is they permit flow when the pump is off. This is for both the flapper valve style and the cylindrical weight on a post style. Analyzing why flow occurs is difficult because you don't really know the ghost flow caused by other zones. My solution for the most troublesome zones was to switch the circulator to a Taco 007 IFC, i.e. one with the spring loaded internal flow check. Had I known flanges were available I would have used them instead. I suspect the cast steel, Wilo brand flanges with spring check will be cheaper than the Webstone. Whatever brand you use I feel the spring type is necessary.
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:29 pm

Guess theres only one way to see if they fit, and seat properly. I bought a few from Pex supply 2 days ago, there here tonite. Will fiddle fart with it and see. Also on another note decided to fire up this evening. Going to make changes to plumbing, but until the day i do will fire, and let go out 2 days or so before working on it. So i will be in the 2 match club for the season right away. Oh Well.
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Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:06 pm

Well, well, measured, for depth to shoulder, measured valve, goood, measured to groove and clips on valve..... all the same, cleaned hole some, light lube,, and in it went and locked in. Gad Zuks!! the things the MFG doesn't want to tell you.
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:14 pm

The one drawback on the IFC flo control is if you would want gravity flo, (LET'S SAY THE POWER WENT OUT :lol: :shock: :sick: :cry: :mad: ) you can't manually open them for gravity flo.
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Re: Taco 007 series pumps ?

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:23 pm

Ahhh yes...dread power going out. Welll thats what the generator is for, have all the heating controls,pumps, etc wired into one junction box, main power line from servie panel has a 25A male plug end into female outlet on box, power goes out, undue power line plug at junction box, put generator lead on it, and alls good. I always keep fimgers crossed power won't go out. Generators under deck coal boiler room is on, lead is hanging in boiler room by junction box. Now if generator don't work, i will be in deep stuff.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed