Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Joeski On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:29 pm

When I bought this house in 2010 I noticed right away that the plumbing to the toilets is hot water. I was told by local Pocono residents that it's done due to "weeping" I can't get a real good explanation on the internet or from the local folks. So now I'm trying all of you because of your wealth of knowledge. I'm thinking it's to prevent the sewer line exiting the house to the septic and sand mount from freezing. Do any of you have hot water going through your toilets plumbing.

Also in the one toilet every so often the toilet runs a bit of hot water in to the upper tank. That drives me crazy :mad: because it's an electric hot water heater and I can just see the money going down the toilet. The other two toilets do not run like that one. Could it be it's own pressure relief valve or just a leak?

Thank you once again for your expertise.
Joeski
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:37 pm

prevent sweating in summer

rotted floors cost big money sometimes too 8-)
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: jpd989 On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:40 pm

Hello Joeski, Some people out here in my area do that so that after you flush the tank is not filled with cold well water. In the summer time the cold water causes condensation to form on the outside of the tank. Which then drips all over the floor and causes a mess. I lined my tank with 1/4 inch strofoam which has helped to lessen the condensation.
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Short Bus On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:45 pm

You probalby have a toilet mixing valve or tempering valve that has failed, to hot.
The toilet that runs ocasionally probalby is leaking, put some food dye in the tank and it will probalby show in the bowl.
This is a example of mixing valve, this one is adjustable
http://www.albrightshardware.com/departments/plumbing-supplies/valves-and-accessories/toilet-tank-anti-sweat-mixing-valve-3-l-x-3-h-x-3-4-w-3-4-mpt.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.

Mixing vavles are installed to prevent sweating toilets, and help keep the drainfield form freezing, for the latter I would close a valve in the hot water for the summer.
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:45 pm

That's what we had to do here, but we used a mixing valve. It goes in the tank about room temperature. The water comes out of the well so cold here you'll get "frosty" glass right from the tap in summer.
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: CoaLen On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:48 pm

Here's my experience. Our previous house had well water and 5 occupants. The very cold water frequently turning over in the china tank caused it to sweat and drip a lot in the summer. The solution was to run a small diameter copper line from the hot water line and tap into the cold water line going to the toilet. It tempered the cold water enough to eliminate the sweating.
-Len
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:38 pm

I'd be dammed before I sent ANY hot water down the toilet :wtf:
Thats ridiculous, sweating or what ever... I'd find a different way to deal with the sweating :idea:
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: jim d On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:17 pm

they have an insulation kit that should remedy that type of problem
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:23 pm

BINGO--jim d -- hot water to the toilet??? that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. :eek2:
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: GoodProphets On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:29 pm

I think it is silly too

BUT Could it help with a single flush i.e. 2 gallons or so

Then when going to the sink to wash hands with warm water, it wont take so long to get warm???

that sounds silly too, but it may save a gallon or two if the person wanted warm/hot water to wash hands.

Just a thought?
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:42 pm

I guess if you can afford to flush your money down the toilet-- :flush: -- anything is possible--if people are going to feed the PIG that easily, I don't understand all the customer service complaining :( I'll think about all that some morning when I'm pumping that hydrant down at the barn this winter. :whistle:
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:48 pm

Lightning wrote:I'd be dammed before I sent ANY hot water down the toilet :wtf:
Thats ridiculous, sweating or what ever... I'd find a different way to deal with the sweating :idea:


Such as what? In my case it's not just a little bit of water on the floor. It's a lot.
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:53 pm

freetown fred wrote:I guess if you can afford to flush your money down the toilet-- :flush: -- anything is possible--if people are going to feed the PIG that easily, I don't understand all the customer service complaining :( I'll think about all that some morning when I'm pumping that hydrant down at the barn this winter. :whistle:


Fred I'm heating the hot water with coal.... That extra gallon of water every few hours isn't going to amount to a hill of beans, besides I piss outside most of the time. :P
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Joeski On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:53 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:prevent sweating in summer

rotted floors cost big money sometimes too 8-)

Ok Poconoeagle that is the word, not weeping. So it is valid to do this. Thanks.
Joeski
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
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Re: Is there any reason to have hot water going to toilets?

PostBy: Joeski On: Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:54 pm

jpd989 wrote:Hello Joeski, Some people out here in my area do that so that after you flush the tank is not filled with cold well water. In the summer time the cold water causes condensation to form on the outside of the tank. Which then drips all over the floor and causes a mess. I lined my tank with 1/4 inch strofoam which has helped to lessen the condensation.

This explains it even more. Thank You jpd989.
Joeski
 
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