The end of America has begun: TX & LA petition to secede

I don't really expect secession could ever happen, but my wish is that this would snowball into a grassroots national issue that would get our representation in Washington to start doing what they've been sent there to do do. Get this country back to work. Stop the degradation of the country through entitlements. Keep our military strong. Grow domestic energy sources.
All those things our current leadership is against.
Our country is in trouble, WE are in trouble, and too many people are "D"-lighted about the recent election. I've got to figure they just don't understand what's happening.

CoaLen wrote:too many people are "D"-lighted about the recent election. I've got to figure they just don't understand what's happening.

Wife was asking same question .Take this perspective.

Your're a black or hispanic female, in the inner city, murders all around, you had to quit high school to take care of your grandmother. You're 34 years old and you have 2 out of wedlock kids.

Obama is pure and simple , hope. One person that many do something for you or at least , won't take away anything that you are currenty getting.

Its that simple. Hope that the GOP never offered.

Watch the movie, Obama: 2016. 10 bucks on Amazon.

All these so called entitlements have been here for most of all our lives & most were fine with it & both parties had many times when they could have made changes but little if anything was done by either but now all of a sudden it's the thing to blame. It seems the R.s blame it on entitlements & the D.s blame it on the tax loopholes that neither one did anything about & neither one takes any responsibility for doing nothing for decades. Guess they finally kicked those cans down a dead end road but they are too egotistical to back up & do something.

No, he is isn't hope to her, he is DADDY. "Don't worry honey, Daddy will take care of everything for you." And she believed him. When we are down graded again and nobody will give us cheap money in order to give her the $afetynet, she will learn he lied.

Entitlements are just one part of it. There is something seriously wrong with this government. We have a media that covers for it, and lies to the American people in lock step with the White House. Spending is out of control. Our government has invited the muslim brotherhood to the White House while snubbing our allies. We are currently funneling weapons and support to our enemies - which cause the whole Benghazi debacle. There's a billion more issues I could fill the whole screen with. This is the WORST administration in the HISTORY of our nation ... and he gets re-elected????

Something is WRONG. Dead wrong. Loser or winner ... democrat, Republican, Libertarian - doesn't matter. Just open your eyes and SEE what is happening to our country!

Here's some statistics on the "entitlement society" I referred to:

Since FY 2007, state welfare spending has stayed relatively flat, averaging $190.2 billion per year. Federal spending, however, has increased 53 percent, going from $468.7 billion in 2007 ($717.1 billion) to $717.1 billion in 2011.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/welfare ... llion-year

Entitlements have been here for a long, long time. I'm not referring to their existence, I'm referring to their abuse and Obama is setting a record. They are being used to buy votes and further an evil, nation weakening agenda. When I was a teenager, it was my shame and my family's shame to be on welfare. Today it's considered prudent (trying to be kind) to figure out how to get a SNAP card or whatever else I can without working for it.
It's pitiful and every person that lives with such an attitude makes this country that much weaker and poorer. It needs to be reversed and that's not going to happen in the next 4 years.
The worst parts about this whole mentality is that it permeates Washington starting with the Whitehouse. What's in it for me or my agenda is foremost in every decision.

By the way Samhill, you're wrong to say nothing has been done. Clinton signed a bill to get people to work for assistance. Welfare was to be temporary and for those that needed it, not just wanted it. All that's been changed to our current massive giveaway.
Did you ever hear the radio advertisements trying to get more people to sign up for SNAP?

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) is a United States federal law considered to be a fundamental shift in both the method and goal of federal cash assistance to the poor. The bill added a workforce development component to welfare legislation, encouraging employment among the poor. The bill was a cornerstone of the Republican Contract with America and was introduced by Rep. E. Clay Shaw, Jr. (R-FL-22) who believed welfare was partly responsible for bringing immigrants to the United States.[1] Bill Clinton signed PRWORA into law on August 22, 1996, fulfilling his 1992 campaign promise to "end welfare as we have come to know it."[2]

PRWORA instituted Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), which became effective July 1, 1997. TANF replaced Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) program, which had been in effect since 1935 and supplanted the Job Opportunities and Basic Skills Training program (JOBS) of 1988. The law was heralded as a "reassertion of America's work ethic" by the US Chamber of Commerce, largely in response to the bill's workfare component. TANF was reauthorized in the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_R ... tunity_Act

Right you are CoaLen, it's mt fault for not explaining myself better , don't really know what SNAP is but I'll look it up a lot of the programs as far as welfare goes are state & the change Obama made was to give the states more oversight in the welfare to work program. I in a way consider welfare differently than most, it OMO should have never been allowed to become a way of life & there should be time limits. If you would look & think about the entitlements go up as employment goes down, also IMO Obama should have never kept extending UC or at the very least kept reducing the amount, why take a job that pays less than UC. Gov. should have never gotten into the public housing or transportation either, might have seemed like a good idea at the time but like everything it morphs into some kind of giant program that gets out of control. The point is to keep some quiet they are given more when they should have been weaned off of it by our cowardly politicians & that is easier to do in good times rather than bad.

samhill wrote:Right you are CoaLen, it's mt fault for not explaining myself better , don't really know what SNAP is but I'll look it up a lot of the programs as far as welfare goes are state & the change Obama made was to give the states more oversight in the welfare to work program. I in a way consider welfare differently than most, it OMO should have never been allowed to become a way of life & there should be time limits. If you would look & think about the entitlements go up as employment goes down, also IMO Obama should have never kept extending UC or at the very least kept reducing the amount, why take a job that pays less than UC. Gov. should have never gotten into the public housing or transportation either, might have seemed like a good idea at the time but like everything it morphs into some kind of giant program that gets out of control. The point is to keep some quiet they are given more when they should have been weaned off of it by our cowardly politicians & that is easier to do in good times rather than bad.

Wow Sam! You are more conservative than I thought. That was good.

Apparently 12 States so far have started secede proceedures-- YES, NY would be one.

freetown fred wrote:Apparently 12 States so far have started secede proceedures-- YES, NY would be one.

Did you start the NY one Fred?

Nope, but I'm waitin to sign it. I'd bet there would be a lot of signatures out this way.

freetown fred wrote:Nope, but I'm waitin to sign it. I'd bet there would be a lot of signatures out this way.

No need to wait. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... t/fvr0tjBZ

EarthWindandFire wrote:I just signed and I'm looking for any additional petitions that I agree with to sign as well.

We should all sign this one https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... s/0C7HQwzn

Dave, if that other was the end war on coal petition--yep--that's signed by yours truely. Don't know how much good it will do, but doing something on all avenues concerning that, is better then doing nothing.That plus making sure my senators & governor knows exactly where I stand. It can't hurt anything!!

Wouldn't let me create an account there ....??? They don't like me very much.