NoSmoke wrote:I agree, the problem is, it is like trying to get along with the environmentalists...they do not make concessions on their part, only yours. They have a single agenda, they make concessions to make you give in, then they go for another throat grab until they get what they wanted in the beginning.
There is a fundamental division in this country: do we remain with the free market system that America is known for, or do we gravitate towards the socialist type of government that exists on the other side of the Atlantic? I see Obama's election as taking us in the latter direction, and since I have been on the other side of the pond, and saw first hand the economic down turn Ireland had a few years ago, I DO NOT want America headed in that direction. I came back from Ireland and said, "If you think America is bad, go over to Ireland and you will think we are doing great."
I do not see these petitions as a true effort at being a separate country from the USA; I see it as people saying "we are so mad we could spit, and we are not going to take this lying down." A true separatist movement...I do not think so.
To be fair, we haven't had a true free market economy since the Great Depression. We've had a mixed economy since that point with several socialistic and capitalist aspects. Farm subsidies come to mind as do price controls for things like milk, etc. These are all socialist practices.