Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:55 pm

Because he is the Messiah. He is so intelligent.(Even though we don't know his grades) He is eye candy. He smoked pot. Hates white people. Is cool.(see smoking pot) Is black, and ain't it great that we're not racist because we voted for a black guy? Hell, I feel safer already! :D Wish I could afford to buy a couple thousand rounds of ammo.

Kevin

And I think pot should be legalized. Notice the South/Central American countries are up in arms about legalizing pot? ;) There goes their cash cow! :shock:
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: Davian On: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:42 am

The federal officer advanced pistol course takes about 750 rounds per day times 3 days...times the number of federal armed agents.

There's a HUGE chunk of rounds right there. For example, there are about 20,000 armed Border Patrol agents in the US times 750 rounds times 3 days equals 45,000,000 rounds.

They dont go to the range once a year and fire off a couple strings of bullets to stay qualified. They qualify quarterly at the range and shoot more often than that to stay sharp. That's just one part of one agency within DHS. There are 250,000 federal employees in DHS...a decent chunk of them are armed special agents for various agencies whether it is BP, FPS, SS, etc.
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:30 am

That still doesn't explain why NOAA even needs ammo to start with ......... let alone the MASSIVE quantity purchased. Something don't smell right .... :gee:
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: whistlenut On: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:51 am

NOAA must be afraid of a attack on the Gray Maine facility!! The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming!!!!! Was that the call to arms in that smokin' tent in Afganistan? Different subject...........


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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: Davian On: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:28 pm

SMITTY wrote:That still doesn't explain why NOAA even needs ammo to start with ......... let alone the MASSIVE quantity purchased. Something don't smell right .... :gee:


The NOAA (which purchased 46K rounds) has a Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement with 63 armed agents...which all need to regularly qualify and train. Its a whopping 730 rounds per Agent...not exactly a massive amount of ammunition when you consider how often they hit the range.
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:26 pm

http://www.ehow.com/about_6498894_feder ... ining.html

That link above shows the rounds fired for ALL firearm types at a huge training facility. Let alone Scarborough, Me. And a site for the FBI talked about training with lighter loads(.38 Special instead of .357Magnum)because full defense loads are brutal. It is a massive buy under anybodies standards.

Kevin
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:41 am

KLook wrote:
And hollow points are standard law enforcement issue so they dont go through the person they're aiming at and hit the innocent people behind them or go through the walls and hit someone. I mean seriously, get a grip with the conspiracy theories.


Not true at all, That would be frangible ammo and we are talking about .40 S&W here. It is in no way designed to not go through walls. Customs, Fisheries, and other gov. agencies do not work in domestic environments like the town or city cops. And they do not need anywhere near this amount of ammo. Law enforcement only "qualifies" once a year that I know of. Lets take NM fisheries for instance. They only have a handful of guys literally on the whole coast and Customs does not have more then 50 probably. So why did they send 40 or 50 million rounds into Scarborough, Maine? The Coast Guard does not have enough guys to bring them up to needing this much ammo. The local Navy base where I grew up didnt have a fraction of this in the armory.

Kevin

Most cities use the 9mm because of its limited power.


All of the govt agencies that have bought this ammo has a law enforcement branch...and in each of those agencies they qualify 3 to 4 times a year....there is no CONSPIRACY here...
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:45 am

SMITTY wrote:That still doesn't explain why NOAA even needs ammo to start with ......... let alone the MASSIVE quantity purchased. Something don't smell right .... :gee:

Fisheries enforcement falls under NOAA...hence the need for ammo...NO CONSPIRACY...common guys...research beyond the surface!
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: Davian On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:54 pm

Northern Maine wrote:
SMITTY wrote:That still doesn't explain why NOAA even needs ammo to start with ......... let alone the MASSIVE quantity purchased. Something don't smell right .... :gee:

Fisheries enforcement falls under NOAA...hence the need for ammo...NO CONSPIRACY...common guys...research beyond the surface!


Yeah, they're not going to listen to you either.
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:08 pm

Northern Maine wrote: Fisheries enforcement falls under NOAA...hence the need for ammo...


Shooting fish in a barrel? ;) :D
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: rockwood On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:55 pm

Davian wrote:
Northern Maine wrote:
SMITTY wrote:That still doesn't explain why NOAA even needs ammo to start with ......... let alone the MASSIVE quantity purchased. Something don't smell right .... :gee:

Fisheries enforcement falls under NOAA...hence the need for ammo...NO CONSPIRACY...common guys...research beyond the surface!


Yeah, they're not going to listen to you either.

I wish I could trust govt as much as you guys do.
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:02 pm

If all of this is simply routine, then why hasn't this been going on for years? Why is it suddenly a new policy?
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:32 pm

This is a pretty good explaination & it's by a Republican (I believe).
http://westmoreland.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=642&Itemid=372
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:38 pm

samhill wrote:This is a pretty good explaination & it's by a Republican (I believe).
http://westmoreland.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=642&Itemid=372
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.



It makes sense we order things the same way on a much smaller scale of coarse. We have a lot of standing orders with vendors in much the same way keeps the costs down and manages cash flow.
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Re: Large ammo purchase by odd branches of government

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:58 pm

[That still doesn't explain why NOAA even needs ammo to start with ......... let alone the MASSIVE quantity purchased. Something don't smell right .... :gee:[/quote]
Fisheries enforcement falls under NOAA...hence the need for ammo...NO CONSPIRACY...common guys...research beyond the surface![/quote]

Yeah, they're not going to listen to you either.[/quote]
I wish I could trust govt as much as you guys do.[/quote]

It's not a matter of trusting the govt. on this matter it's a matter of digging for the reason why the govt. did this...instead of screaming "OMG The sky is falling like chicken little!" :shock: Do a little research/reading and post something that's not so shallow! :roll:
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