Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:16 pm

franco b wrote:What happened to removing the eye and putting the pan directly over the fire? I thought that the eyes with multiple openings were for that purpose.


You go blind first ! :D

If you mean the "round plates", yes, you can remove them to place a pot right over the fire, . . if you have the correct size pots and pans. Those round plate openings vary greatly in size ! :shock: I've collected pots and pans (and that stainless steel tea kettle) that fit the round plates of my Glenwood range.

And many of the kitchen ranges came for a "ring plate" - that's one of the round plates that had two, or more, smaller diameter plates set inside each other. Usually the smallest one was a mug size, then next larger was a small sauce pan size.

But, I've found that having the mug/pan/pot bottom expose to the hot coals doesn't heat up the mug/pot/pan all that much faster than just having them sitting flat on the round plate that's been sitting over that area of the stove top. Don't know why the heat transfer to the exposed pots/pans is not faster, . . . . unless the cast iron transfers heat to the pots/pans more quickly then I expected.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:29 pm

Paul,it must be the power of coal & cast iron combined!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:32 pm

[quote="franco b"]What happened to removing the eye and putting the pan directly over the fire? I thought that the eyes with multiple openings were for that purpose.[/quote]
...and the kettles that hung over the fire in a fireplace could sit in the openings, as well as the protruding ring on the bottom of skillets would hold there ground in the opennings. just my $.02
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Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:39 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:Paul,it must be the power of coal & cast iron combined!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:


Like the "force" - it has a light side and a dark side,. and it's powerful ! At least in our minds !!!! :D

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:40 pm

michaelanthony wrote:
franco b wrote:What happened to removing the eye and putting the pan directly over the fire? I thought that the eyes with multiple openings were for that purpose.

...and the kettles that hung over the fire in a fireplace could sit in the openings, as well as the protruding ring on the bottom of skillets would hold there ground in the opennings. just my $.02



Ok, ya lost me with the last half of that, but then, I get lost a lot ! :D

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:26 pm

What is an electric stove and why would you want one? My grandparents had a propane refrigerator and a cook stove that was gas with a kerosene sidearm heater along with a gas hot water heater and a coal fired furnace. They thought electricity was a luxury so they did not have to fill the kerosene lamps and could listen to the radio at night. Also rather pleased to have running water and a tub they could take a bath without lighting a fire and did not have an outhouse to visit at night. They were born in the late 18 hundreds in a farming village in Sweden. I thought them backwards and the advice I got was depend on no one but yourself.
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Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:43 pm

Electric cooking range :doh: why? some places its cheaper than propane,if an electric burner is left on over night it won't gas you,leave a propane on that is not lit you get gassed in your sleep.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:19 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:Electric cooking range :doh: why? some places its cheaper than propane,if an electric burner is left on over night it won't gas you,leave a propane on that is not lit you get gassed in your sleep.


That sounds like left wing nanny state save the morons from themselves thoughts. Why not just pay attention and don't do that. If responsible enough to have a few hundred pounds of very hot metal in your house to heat it the responsibility to use a stove safely should be a walk in the park.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:31 pm

I've never left a burner on,but there are people who forget,poor memory,sloppy habits,dementia etc. no left wing here.I personally get sick from propane fumes,yes ,some of us are more sensitive to certain things than others.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:24 pm

ddahlgren wrote:What is an electric stove and why would you want one? My grandparents had a propane refrigerator and a cook stove that was gas with a kerosene sidearm heater along with a gas hot water heater and a coal fired furnace. They thought electricity was a luxury so they did not have to fill the kerosene lamps and could listen to the radio at night. Also rather pleased to have running water and a tub they could take a bath without lighting a fire and did not have an outhouse to visit at night. They were born in the late 18 hundreds in a farming village in Sweden. I thought them backwards and the advice I got was depend on no one but yourself.

I understand where you are coming from. However, when I bought my house it was completely electric. I have slowly been changing that. I now have a coal stove in the living room. I also have a wood/coal stove in the garage. I can now heat how water, heat my garage & house with coal. I have a long way to go but I want to get back to what our ancestors experienced 100 years ago. (as long as I can keep my computer) :clap:
Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & Geneva Oak Andes #517
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:31 pm

ddahlgren wrote:
windyhill4.2 wrote:Electric cooking range :doh: why? some places its cheaper than propane,if an electric burner is left on over night it won't gas you,leave a propane on that is not lit you get gassed in your sleep.


That sounds like left wing nanny state save the morons from themselves thoughts. Why not just pay attention and don't do that. If responsible enough to have a few hundred pounds of very hot metal in your house to heat it the responsibility to use a stove safely should be a walk in the park.

How many posts have been on here with near misses....you get distracted and stuff happens. I now set a timer on my cell phone to remind me that I have to check the stove. I don't want it left unattended. I am guilty of forgetting that I was re-loading the stove. If that makes me a "left wing nanny state to save the moron from themselves thoughts"...welcome to reality...it happens. You are right about the importance of keeping on top of this stuff, but as crazy as life gets sometimes accidents happen, and we don't want that to happen!
Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & Geneva Oak Andes #517
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:48 pm

We had a propane stove in this house when we bought it,my wife left unlit burner on twice,oldest son came home from work 1-3 oclock & opened up,second time a stray cat we took in got on our bed & woke me up in time to air out,never figured why the propane detector didn't detect,it was a top brand name unit & not very old.A few days later on thanksgiving day ,i wired a new panel in & added range outlet,no more propane for us in the house.Liberal you might be if compared to me,Mr.DG-- engage brain b4 mouth it's far easier to make friends & a sensible statement.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Which stoves can you cook upon in a pinch

PostBy: nealkas On: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:32 pm

AA130FIREMAN wrote: I like to tinker with old hit and miss engines, but I would never think of hooking one up to pump my well water. FUN IS FUN but think practicle.

Wouldn't do on demand, but would fill an overhead tank slowly and let gravity handle 'on demand'.

Sorry for the zombie post, but Berks County Heritage Center has Gruber's Wagon Works engine.
Kathy and I go to events there to watch it fired up every year.
There and Oley Fair, etc usually have an amazing array of early engines.
One immediately see the advantage of even the most humbly powered hit/miss single cylinder engines.
Must have seemed very nearly magical.
So many are named "genie" or "Nvr-Fail" or "Perpet**'

If you think about it, modern electronic ignition reinvents the concepts of hit/miss.

Like coal, an unexplored option.
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