Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: Pmk13 On: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:28 pm

I started my new s130 around oct 24' after a few days I noticed hat the draft motor was getting louder. I emailed/called AHS for some direction. I checked the 4 mounting bolts and they were tight. I shut down the boiler, removed the motor and checked the fan, it was tight. I ran the motor with the fan on and it seemed loud. I removed the fan and ran the motor on the ground and there was only a slight change in noise level. I checked the motor shaft and it doesn't have any play in it. I seperated the motor from the mounting plate and found 1 lose bolt. I added locktight and tightened bolts. I removed the back of the motor and nothing was found. All together noise level remains the same. Ahs wants me to take the motor to a service dealer. Has anyone else seen this issue? Does this draft motor ususally run soo loud?
Pmk13
 
Stove/Furnace Make: AHS
Stove/Furnace Model: S130

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: Dennis On: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:53 pm

I believe AHS should send you a new motor,since you just purchased a $$$$ new boiler.They were really fair when I needed a new part from a defective part for my boiler,although it wasn't as expensive as a motor,witch shouldn't much matter anyhow.
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:54 pm

When I first fired mine up it was making a squealing noise that I couldn't figure out. Then I discovered that a very tiny Allen key which secures the fan shaft to the belt most pillow block bearing was loose and the shaft was spinning free of the pillow block bearing itself and squealing against the inner surface of same. I snugged it up and haven't had any problems since. The fan operation is loudest right at motor start-up, but it settles down soon afterwards. Not the quietest fan operation on earth, but at least no screeching squeal. When the belt is removed, my fan motor runs almost completely silent.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: Pmk13 On: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:09 pm

The draft motor is direct drive.
Pmk13
 
Stove/Furnace Make: AHS
Stove/Furnace Model: S130

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:12 pm

Pmk13 wrote:The draft motor is direct drive.


Ah, I opted for the belt drive option. It indeed sounds like AHS should make good on the warrantee and give you a new motor.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:35 am

I assume this boiler is heating your house, so you probably don't want to shut it down for a week or two. Ask them to send a replacement, that way your downtime is minimized.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: NWBuilder On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:28 am

Ask for whatever you want, what you get may be a different story.
NWBuilder
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Ahs 130
Coal Size/Type: Burning Pea anthracite

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:56 am

NWBuilder wrote:Ask for whatever you want, what you get may be a different story.


True, but I would think if their customer service is even mediocre they would want to work with him.

Pmk13 wrote:Ahs wants me to take the motor to a service dealer.


Do you have a dealer nearby? Who did you buy the boiler from?

Does this motor have grease fittings or oil ports?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: steamup On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:51 am

Pmk13 wrote:The draft motor is direct drive.


Sounds like a bearing is starting to go.

The direct drive motors have sealed bearings. Bearings are good for about 3 years depending on how much heat get to them.

The motor can have the bearings replaced and a good motor shop can do it but there will be some down time.
I had the draft motor on my Dad's woodgun rebuilt two years ago and it cost $15 for the bearings and $60 for the labor for a total of $75.00.


If the unit is under warrenty, get directions from AHS on how to claim the warrenty.
steamup
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson AA-130, Keystoker K-6
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: HS Tarm 502 Wood/Coal/Oil
Coal Size/Type: pea, buck, rice

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:08 am

I have found AHS to be both courtious and prompt in solving my few teething problems when I started mine up. Talk with Darren Bricker.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: Pmk13 On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:27 pm

No lube points, sealed bearings. Yes the boiler is currently running. The motor manufacturers service center is around 18 miles away. This boiler is currently my only source of heat...nights getting around 30 and the house is 130 yrs young and only partially insulated.



Will contact ahs again tar as well as service center...has anyone else had issues with the draft motors? Baldor Reliancer is the manufactor
Pmk13
 
Stove/Furnace Make: AHS
Stove/Furnace Model: S130

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:34 pm

Baldor is a good name in motors.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:08 pm

Aside of the warranty and customer service aspect...

Based on commented 3 year bearing replacement interval, perhaps a standby/spare motor would be an idea. :idea:

Whenever it would happen again, down the road, it will likely be another big inconvenience. :o
They don't fail when it is warm outside. ;)
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: Pmk13 On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:11 pm

AHS sending used motor, so I can bring mine to service center, this will minimize downtime. Spare motor may not be a bad idea, since it will not fail if its not running....
Pmk13
 
Stove/Furnace Make: AHS
Stove/Furnace Model: S130

Re: Increasing noise coming from new s130 draft motor

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:22 pm

OUTSTANDING pmk
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix