460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Berlin On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:44 am

A little over 10,000 on this sample. Anytime the numbers picked up a bit was when this truck was worked hard for that interval. Went from Mobil devlac 15-40 to mobil 1 TDT at 310,000 miles to get easier starting esp. in winter. This truck has a very strong running engine and, other than some advance knock from the chip under high fueling, has always been a smooth runner. I've been using Lubromoly MOS2 1 can at each oil change since approximately 160,000 miles. Original injectors and everything on the engine. Mobil 1, Motorcraft, or Bosch D+ oil filter depending on what I ate for breakfast. I'm very happy with this engine and these wear numbers. Thought someone might be interested.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Short Bus On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:37 am

Normally I dislike diesels in pickups, but yours has proven it's worth.
We have this engine in our ambulance, and with our closest hospital 150 miles away it has been a good runner.
I still don't like them for running to the post office at 10 below, like so many get used for.
That is probalby where they get the bad reputation, pickup diesels in general I mean.
Congradulations and keep up the good work. :)
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:41 am

280,000 miles with lots of hard horse towing on a 2000 F350 dually 7.3. My oil is any old crap that the local shop puts in but I change every 3000 miles and I always check it's totally fresh oil/filter - cheaters are out there. Bullydog chipped and intakes changed and 4" Banks exhaust but the motor only comes alive once the intakes are enlarged, so chipping is not really necessary but they do haul a$$ if correctly modified. Bullybreaks are a great thing if correctly used. That engine has to breathe as International designed it and EPA noise limits killed it. Modern motor oils are all pretty good but diesels are dirty and super diligence is the name of the game. Why people buy the 6.0 or 6.4/6.7 is beyond me. The last decent truck made was the 7.3 generation. A transmission rebuild by a shop in Middleton NY is my secret - bulletproof. Perhaps I am just bitter as I can't afford a newer truck anyway.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:02 am

I use oil analysis to monitor the oil for contaminants (coolant, fuel, etc), and to try and get a good return on a the lubricant cost. Some of our larger equipment holds about 15 gallons of engine oil, so we usually pull a sample with a vacuum pump and base the drain interval on the results.

Based on the report from your 7.3, I would double the drain interval. You don't have a bunch of emissions garbage that is going to load the oil with soot, so unless it gets contaminated with something else...it will probably get 'condemned' based on the iron level...I use 100 PPM.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:15 am

Too bad with the GM trucks that before you hit half of what Berlin has for mileage, everything around the engine falls apart, rots out, or catches fire. :roll:

I know what my next truck will be! Thanks for the post Berlin! 8-)
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:32 am

Some of our larger equipment holds about 15 gallons of engine oil, so we usually pull a sample with a vacuum pump and base the drain interval on the results.


AHHA, caught you! That is some large (multiple) pieces of equipment with 15 gal sumps :o . So you DO own the North East part of the state, I suspected as much.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:23 pm

coalnewbie wrote:
Some of our larger equipment holds about 15 gallons of engine oil, so we usually pull a sample with a vacuum pump and base the drain interval on the results.


AHHA, caught you! That is some large (multiple) pieces of equipment with 15 gal sumps :o . So you DO own the North East part of the state, I suspected as much.


Not nearly as much in the "fleet" as there once was. My brother has two Fiat Allis dozers and a Volvo excavator that I help him maintain.

coalnewbie wrote:A transmission rebuild by a shop in Middleton NY is my secret - bulletproof.


I was wondering how you got that 4R100 to stay alive between a hot rod 7.3 and a horse trailer...sounds like that shop knows their business. Don't forget to change the gear oil in the rear axle once in a while...they can get pretty hot if you tow hard.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:32 pm

I was just going to ask about tranny problems.

My 2000 F250 is over 196,000. Starting to notice a hard thump at times when it is shifting. But only when running light, no trailering, nothing in the bed.

Berlin, you have any tranny problems ?? Looks like CN took care of his issues..........




Rick
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:33 pm

Rick, does it do that on all shifts or only a certain one? e.g. 1-2 shift.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:37 pm

Rob, I'm pretty sure it is only the 1-2 shift.

I did have it flushed at 100,000 by the dealer.

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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:42 pm

If it is always the 1-2 shift I'd look for a broken 1-2 accumulator spring. There is also a valve behind the 1-2 accumulator that can stick.

Also - I think the recommended service interval for that transmission is 30k, especially if it does any towing.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:50 pm

Thanks Rob.


I've heard that a lot of these needed entire rebuilds. It doesn't seem to do it while towing. So maybe just the sticking valve. And I really am not towing much now a days. Last weekend was only a light TSC trailer with a 4 wheeler in it. Had to go feed the deers and try to fatten them up a bit in MD so I can shoot them this weekend..... :rambo3:


And hey Smitty, you should see my left cab corner and right rear door..... Sorta like the cobbler's son who has no shoes......1 day I got to get it inside the shop and do some rust repairs. Probably get it in next spring and maybe do a repair and repaint. It's only been about 4 years since the chain peppered the side of it.



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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:15 pm


http://academytransmissions.com
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


Forget Jasper and other "heavy duty" stuff that 4R100 is the weak spot if you are serious. I don't care how far you have to drive go to this place but you need to book and don't ask for a quote.Ignore the 'owned by coalnewbie sign' in the waiting room

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Get it totally upped to a HD, as you all know, Ford made two versions of the 4R100 rebuilt automatic transmissions that are behind the 7.3L diesel engines in '99-'03 SuperDuty trucks. The OEM version, and a heavy duty version intended to compete with the BTS and John Wood rebuilt transmissions of the world. Both have the same 3-year warranty if properly installed.

If you plan to have the R&R done by Academy, you might want to pay particular attention to the Ford requirements for doing the R&R. If it's not done right, including replacing the oil-to-air tranny cooler, flushing the oil-to-water tranny cooler, and installing a Magnefine in-line tranny filter, their warranty will be void. Now when I see the Delaware Gap hill that is the killer of transmissions and with over 12,000# on my a$$ (way over) I like to see how hard I can accelerate. Coming down it's bully brake time and I still have some brakes left at the bottom instead of molten rotors. Of course, engine braking is not a new idea.

One final word, always carry a spare cam positioning sensor and a 10MM wrench and know how to change it.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Berlin On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:41 pm

Third 4r100

1st at 110,000 miles
2nd @ 300,000
and BTS from 300,000 on - no replacements needed from here out.
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Re: 460,000 mile 7.3 powerstroke - M0S2 + Mobil 1 5w40

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:28 pm

Berlin - What do you do with this truck? Looks like it gets a fair amount of mileage.
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