Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:19 pm

So I took the flue pipe off the WM today to take measurements to compare the Chubby, cast iron, 6' oval to round adapter that Larry has made. It looks like a perfect match... I then decided while we have some reasonable temps I would try and take a stove bolt out... Ok so they started to come out easy to my surprise so I continued. Everything came out perfect except the bottom bolts. I had to drill those out. I am headed to the hardware store right now to pick up a few more. I knew I needed to re-manufacture some heat shield that sit on top of the fire brick so I will do that tomorrow at work. The firebricks do have a crack down two of them but they can't go anywhere and they are hairline. I tried surface fixing them last year but it didn't do much good. They don't have a problem working still though so I will leave them alone. I have torn down all of the cast iron pieces off the stove except for the bottom grate holder and the base.

I have all the parts wire brushed and ready for some rutlands stove polish then it is back to re-sealing the stove. I will be able to reseal the stove tonight except for the back and the top because the heat shield must go in before the back and top go back on. The stove is in very good condition still. Now after this is done the stove should burn even better!

This site always seems to motivate me to work on my projects quicker!

here is a quick cell phone photo. I have better ones I will post later.

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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Nut

Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: david78 On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:10 pm

I have one just like that sitting in my garage that I have never fired up. I bought a couple tons of bit coal off a guy a couple years ago for $150 and he threw the stove in with it. I need to hook it up and try it out. Do you like yours?
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:48 pm

david78 wrote:I have one just like that sitting in my garage that I have never fired up. I bought a couple tons of bit coal off a guy a couple years ago for $150 and he threw the stove in with it. I need to hook it up and try it out. Do you like yours?


it heated my 1287 sq ft house by itself last year. It burns bit coal really well and anthracite very well as well. too many "wells" in there. :lol:

I do like it and now that I have taken it apart I am very impressed with the qaulity that went into this stove. I took it apart in less than 15 minutes btw. If I had all the parts tonight I could have it back together in the same amount of time.

I bought a pack of 10-24 machine screws to replace the ones I drilled out but they are zinc and the more I think about it I want to buy black oxide 10-24 machine screws. so I think I will pick some up at pleasants hardware tomorrow. Lowes never has what you need anyways.
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:08 am

just a few more photos. It is coming back together great!
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:25 pm

Just made the heat shields for the top of the stove. As you can see the one I had in there was blown out.

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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: nortcan On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:24 pm

Smokeyja wrote:Just made the heat shields for the top of the stove. As you can see the one I had in there was blown out.

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Thanks for sharing Smokeyja. Nice work on these parts.
BTW, I like the Harley,s chromed straight pipes :D
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:44 pm

nortcan wrote:
Smokeyja wrote:Just made the heat shields for the top of the stove. As you can see the one I had in there was blown out.

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Thanks for sharing Smokeyja. Nice work on these parts.
BTW, I like the Harley,s chromed straight pipes :D



Haha thanks Pierre ! I wish those were Harley straight pipes I was working on. They are just .125" wall brushed SS grab rails I was making today for a local college I have been building rails for. I have a lot of this SS scrap and I am thinking of making some sort of heat exchanger with it and aluminum that looks cool!

The perks of working for a decorative iron working shop ;)


I just got the stove all back together and sealed very well! This Warm morning should perform better than new!

I have become addicted to the stoves again!! Did you ever get that insert you were looking for like the one in your profile?
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Nut

Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Dennis On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:41 pm

Josh,what go's directly above/ontop of the bricks?
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:01 pm

Dennis wrote:Josh,what go's directly above/ontop of the bricks?


The heat shields/stiffeners go on the inside on top of the fire brick and then the top cast iron cover goes on which the flue opening goes on top of.

Here is the shields
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:47 pm

Wow the control I have on the stove is a lot better! It is much more responsive to air control changes now.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:42 am

Smokeyja wrote:Wow the control I have on the stove is a lot better! It is much more responsive to air control changes now.


That is where a lot of people make their mistake with a stove, even; a recently made one like your Warm Morning.
When you find it and buy it- You MUST rebuild it. I don't care what the seller says. Even if the stove has been unused for decades and appears to be perfect. It must be rebuilt. Also, keep this in mind the term; "restored," doesn't mean anything unless it is coming from a reputable shop like Emery's or Doug's. To a lot of people a fresh coat of paint means the stove is, "restored." Now you can see what that really means for yourself.
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PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:23 am

Nice Josh. You're right, the FORUM definitly is a motivator. toothy
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: nortcan On: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:36 pm

Hi Smokeyja. Again bravo for the nice work on that stove, really pro!
Here is the answer to your question about the heater: the Sunnyside is burning since a few weeks.
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PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:45 pm

Josh, Nice job! I'll bet it's a big difference and having that control makes all the differance with any coal stove. It makes the warm days allot more enjoyable when you can burn low and the stove just works as intended. It's more efficient too.

PS: That Sunnyside looks great in your house Pierre!
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Re: Warm Morning 414a speed tear down and re-seal

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:27 pm

Pierre, so glad you got it! It looks great!

Today I loaded the stove with some bit coal at 7am and it coked up well. We had intentions of letting it burn out because we were going to see family most of the day and wouldn't be back till late. So when we left I didn't bother reloading it because bituminous takes a lot longer to situate a steady and safe burn so you can leave it... well at least in this WM it's that way. Even though I did a reseal the top door still lets in air and I have put cord around it but it still has issues. With anthracite this isn't a problem but with bit it is a major problem although I have fingured a good meathod using ash and about 30 minutes of my time after reload and I can tame the bituminous beast.

To my surprise when we came home at 21:00 ... the house felt warm... It was 66 in the kitchen and about 70 in the rest of the house yet 38 outside... I was thinking, I can't believe it! So I peaked in the stove and there it was, a low glow of red. I opened the bottom door wide open and opened the MPD, waited about a minute and glow began to grow. Soon enough I had a nice bright red bed of coals again so I threw in a little bit of "bit" and it took off again, ready for the night.

What a great way to end a wonderful Thanksgiving.
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