Truth or not?

Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:55 pm

Come on Franco b :) It's always a consideration to any true Patriot, and then there's the fanatics which help nothing as far as moving foward. Govt. does have a role being involved in our lives. It's over involvement that rational people are working on getting straightened out. I don't think I mentioned anywhere that you shouldn't be taking advantage of help from a Govt. that you seem, according to your posts, despise. I just think that's sad. I've mentioned this many times--there have always been the doers & always been the whiners. Just part of REAL life.
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:15 pm

freetown fred wrote:Come on Franco b :) It's always a consideration to any true Patriot, and then there's the fanatics which help nothing as far as moving foward. Govt. does have a role being involved in our lives. It's over involvement that rational people are working on getting straightened out. I don't think I mentioned anywhere that you shouldn't be taking advantage of help from a Govt. that you seem, according to your posts, despise. I just think that's sad. I've mentioned this many times--there have always been the doers & always been the whiners. Just part of REAL life.


You have NEVER heard me rail about the so called "safety net". That's your issue.

I've questioned the need to be the police of the world and maintaining the American Empire.

You seem to think that's necessary so it seems we are at an impasse.
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:49 pm

Interesting as it is--I've never mentioned anything about any "safety net" -- ya see , you don't read what individuals are posting and tend not to engage that brain before putting the old mouth in gear--it's just who you are. I also have never been supportive of this Country needing to be the police of the world- good Lord, take a breath. -
jpete wrote:
freetown fred wrote:Come on Franco b :) It's always a consideration to any true Patriot, and then there's the fanatics which help nothing as far as moving foward. Govt. does have a role being involved in our lives. It's over involvement that rational people are working on getting straightened out. I don't think I mentioned anywhere that you shouldn't be taking advantage of help from a Govt. that you seem, according to your posts, despise. I just think that's sad. I've mentioned this many times--there have always been the doers & always been the whiners. Just part of REAL life.


You have NEVER heard me rail about the so called "safety net". That's your issue.

I've questioned the need to be the police of the world and maintaining the American Empire.

You seem to think that's necessary so it seems we are at an impasse.
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:58 pm

freetown fred wrote:Interesting as it is--I've never mentioned anything about any "safety net" -- ya see , you don't read what individuals are posting and tend not to engage that brain before putting the old mouth in gear--it's just who you are. I also have never been supportive of this Country needing to be the police of the world- good Lord, take a breath. -
jpete wrote:
freetown fred wrote:Come on Franco b :) It's always a consideration to any true Patriot, and then there's the fanatics which help nothing as far as moving foward. Govt. does have a role being involved in our lives. It's over involvement that rational people are working on getting straightened out. I don't think I mentioned anywhere that you shouldn't be taking advantage of help from a Govt. that you seem, according to your posts, despise. I just think that's sad. I've mentioned this many times--there have always been the doers & always been the whiners. Just part of REAL life.


Oh but I DO read what you write Fred.

freetown fred wrote:NO, I did not vote for BO, BUT, he is our PRES. & I will get behind our Country as always. To me, this is nothing but disrespect. The story of the lil boy crying wolf keeps running through my mind--distress is about a life & death situation. What I can do, is make my voice heard. I also keep flashing on all the flag burning during the Vietnam era, I suppose some of the live & let live people thought/think that was a real message---NOT ME--Again--DISRESPECT to our Country as a whole--I think if the love it or leave it concept came into play, we could rid ourselves a lot of mealy mouthed non Patriots. Just one old farmers thoughts. :(


ANYTHING the POTUS wants to do is A-OK with you because otherwise, you aren't a "real" patriot.

Unless they are attached to the "safety net" you never talk about.

freetown fred wrote:sam, go down to the welfare office & talk to people. They'll probably try to give you one just for entering the building :( If BO perpetuates it instead of questioning the validity of it--it becomes an obama-phone.


I guess as long as you're doing the whining, it isn't whining.

But don't mind me, I'm just making "my voice heard."
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: Davian On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:01 pm

lsayre wrote:The federal government owns roughly 30% of the land mass of the United States, owning 50% of the land west of the Mississippi, 65% of the land west of Denver, and 84% of Nevada.


Considering it was bought by the Fed. gov't (or won in military conflicts), that tends to make sense.
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:03 pm

Davian wrote:
lsayre wrote:The federal government owns roughly 30% of the land mass of the United States, owning 50% of the land west of the Mississippi, 65% of the land west of Denver, and 84% of Nevada.


Considering it was bought by the Fed. gov't (or won in military conflicts), that tends to make sense.


Should it make sense forever?
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:05 pm

jpete, you have an interesting way of interpreting things to " serve your own needs" SAD, very SAD
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: Davian On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:10 pm

lsayre wrote:
Davian wrote:
lsayre wrote:The federal government owns roughly 30% of the land mass of the United States, owning 50% of the land west of the Mississippi, 65% of the land west of Denver, and 84% of Nevada.


Considering it was bought by the Fed. gov't (or won in military conflicts), that tends to make sense.


Should it make sense forever?


No but they sell off big chunks of it fairly often or lease out logging/mineral rights so those owned percentages are a bit deceiving. Huge chunks of it are "national forest" land not Parks/Reserves. They get royalties as a result...so its actually a net positive (that's how we fill the Strategic Oil Reserves for example).
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:32 pm

freetown fred wrote:jpete, you have an interesting way of interpreting things to " serve your own needs" SAD, very SAD


Really? How should I "interpret" your "love it or leave it" philosophy?
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:37 pm

Hell, that's not whining--that's just stating a fact, far from a philosophy.
jpete wrote:
freetown fred wrote:jpete, you have an interesting way of interpreting things to " serve your own needs" SAD, very SAD


Really? How should I "interpret" your "love it or leave it" philosophy?
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:53 pm

freetown fred wrote:Hell, that's not whining--that's just stating a fact, far from a philosophy.


It's YOUR philosophy.

So it makes me wonder why you are so upset that I have availed myself of the great opportunity presented by my country.

If you don't like it. Leave. Stop whining about it.
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:28 pm

Damn, I think I figured it out--you don't get to say much at home do ya?
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:32 pm

freetown fred wrote:Damn, I think I figured it out--you don't get to say much at home do ya?


Wrong as usual.

Any chance you are going to square your "no whining, love it or leave it" philosophy with your constant busting my balls about going to school?
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:37 pm

Nope, but, other then in your imagination, I don't think I've ever "busted your balls" about school. Just stated the fact that you ARE going to school thanx to Govt funding. YOU sure seem to get upset about it though.
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Re: Truth or not?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:52 pm

freetown fred wrote:Nope, but, other then in your imagination, I don't think I've ever "busted your balls" about school. Just stated the fact that you ARE going to school thanx to Govt funding. YOU sure seem to get upset about it though.


Really? Must be my imagination because you never seem to miss an opportunity.

freetown fred wrote:You mean like taking advantage of every tax loop-hole one can find/ not claiming income?---taking advantage of Govt./ tax payer funded schooling?---then bitching about everything under the sun having to do with the Country and how it is being run. :clap: toothy


I'm just playing the game Fred.

If you don't like it, leave. But stop whining.
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