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Post by steamup » Tue. Nov. 27, 2012 6:52 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:Nice find. The youth of today are a bunch of whiny bitches.
Don't blame the youth as much. They did have a parent or two didn't they? Sometime we want a better life for our kids but make it too easy for them.

My buddy at work coached some sports. The kids were ok. It was the parents that were the problem.

 
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Post by Ed.A » Tue. Nov. 27, 2012 6:54 pm

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I'm On Fire wrote: Last year he played baseball. His team lost. He refused the trophy.
Smart kid! :up:
Awsome!

 
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Post by Rwalker » Tue. Nov. 27, 2012 7:20 pm

Anyone with young kids in sports knows how bad it has gotten. It is beyond bad, I like to call it The Pussification of America.

My son has played tackle football for 2 years now, started at 7 and played his second season this year at age 8. Parents actually complained that the coaches were too hard on the kids last year, so this year half the kids WALKED through the drills and the coaches didnt say a word. I caught my son dogging it because he didnt have to push to beat everyone else and when he got home he ran 10 hills in full gear and was lectured on the importance of practicing hard. He lead his team this year in tackles for loss. But yes, every kid got a trophy, just like baseball this past spring. He was picked for the All Star team and they won first place and I looked at him and told him now THAT is a trophy HE earned. Kids are taught to "try their best" thanks to our schools and my generation of parents. Your best? To quote one of my favorite movies, "Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and f*ck the prom queen!" As I said in a different post, he actually got in trouble in school a few week ago for "celebrating" after breaking up a pass during a recess football game. He pumped his arm...that was "bragging" according to the teacher. WTF?

My son works his tail off 6 days a week in preperation for next season. While other kids are watching TV, or playing Xbox he is lifting 3 days a week and running 3 days a week. At age 8 and 85 pounds he can deadlift 120 for 3 sets of 10 reps. He can bench press 60 pounds for 3 sets of 10 reps. And he can run all day long. We spend our weekends outside, fishing, hiking, going to the park, what ever we can do to keep them active and healthy.

Hell my 2.5 year old sons workout. They can already do push-ups, sit-ups, bodyweight squats, and they hang from my climbing wall. They also do yoga with us. My 5 year old daughter deadlifts over 80 pounds and is in gymnastics.

Our bully solution? My kids have all been taught to protect their chins and throw the jab-cross-hook. We work it weekly. If anyone puts their hands on them they are to react immediately and violently. A bully is only a bully until he gets his nose pushed in. I have already warned their teachers that they will defend themselves. I am actually a bit worried about my twin sons. They are fighters now at 2.5, I cant imagine when they get to school and someone messes with one of them. It is going to get nasty quick, but if they are defending themselves, I will fight any school admin. or policy over it. They say, "tell the teacher!" what bullshit, that just gets you bullied more. I tell them, if they are touched, they are to "touch" back with an immediate jab-cross-hook. Respect all until it is time to not respect.

Teach your kids well. Teach them to hunt and fish and work the land, teach them the value of hard work and pushing themselves to the limit, testing themselves physically and mentally on a daily basis. Teach them to WIN and to strive to WIN. Teach them to defend themselves with immediate and fierce violence. Do that, and your kids are going to be alright.




 
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Post by I'm On Fire » Tue. Nov. 27, 2012 7:46 pm

steamup wrote:
I'm On Fire wrote:Nice find. The youth of today are a bunch of whiny bitches.
Don't blame the youth as much. They did have a parent or two didn't they? Sometime we want a better life for our kids but make it too easy for them.

My buddy at work coached some sports. The kids were ok. It was the parents that were the problem.
True. What the hell happened?

 
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Post by steamup » Tue. Nov. 27, 2012 9:17 pm

Oh - a lot of little things - Parents yelling at and degrading their own kids in front of everyone because they were expecting their kids to be top dog.

In one case, he was coaching wrestling. The kid was doing real good in his weight class. The parent insisted that he move up a weight class because his kid was doing so well instead of letting the kid get experience. Bottom line, the kid was moved up and got pummeled. The kid lost interest and quit wrestling.

It only takes one or two jerks to make it unpleasant for the kids. Let the kids have fun and learn to compete fairly.

 
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Post by Dann757 » Wed. Nov. 28, 2012 3:12 pm

I grew up in Albany, NY. A while back my nephew mentioned that his dad, my brother, told him it was a rough neighborhood. I was the baby in the family of two older brothers. My one brother was a scrapper, the other one a pacifist really. My father was never around. Albany is a port city believe it or not, our working-class neighborhood had a few moms with kids always waiting for their husbands to return from the sea trades. I was always getting bullied; probably from not having a father. First black eye I ever got was from a smaller kid; that knew some basics of boxing. That sucked. Other kids bullied me because they could. To this day I think about looking a couple of them up, show up at their house, and BAM, sucker punch them :D "Remember me from 1965?" hahahaha not a good idea.

I've mentioned here many times, those were the days. Totally true about having to come in when the street lights came on. Those city streets were our playground. Hide-n-seek, head on tackle, riding our Schwinn Stingrays all day, blowing up our model cars on the 4th, skateboards with metal roller-skate wheels, sledding at a hilly area in the heavy Albany winters, flying kites at the local field..
I remember asking about one kid; why he wasn't coming out to play. The other kids told me, he got his eye put out when his brother flung an LP record across the room... his mom became over-protective after that I guess.
I had a drawn-out incident at the age of 54 with a local bully, work related. I finally confronted him explosively at a customer's front yard when the guy was continuing to hassle me. I was hopping mad hahahahha. The guy backed off since then, I see him around frequently. Older guy but pretty tough. This happened after I automatically tolerated several incidents of disrespect from the guy.
Ya gotta try to keep a balance I guess.

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