What Is a Normal Stack Temperature for the Harman TLC2000?

 
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Post by DosDemiGod » Fri. Nov. 30, 2012 10:04 am

Well the best laid plans.... I came home last night to a cold stove :( Had to clean her out and start over. I still have a lot to learn. Once I got the coal bed going, loaded and the dancing blue ladies returned, I throttled back the air to just left of center. At that time the stove temp was about 350f with a stack temp of 200f (picture below). I left it and went to bed. This morning I got up and the stove was 200f and the stack about 125f. I gave it a shake and there was plenty of amber glow to be seen from below the grates. Loaded a little extra coal on top and left it. Not sure what if I am in danger of letting the bed go out again. Should I be giving it more air?

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Post by EasyRay » Fri. Nov. 30, 2012 2:42 pm

Remember....Always fill it to the top of the bricks and top of the front bars. You can even mound it up in the middle. Always rev it up before shaking or adding.
Because the fire box is vee shaped you will have to scrape the sides where the ash accumulates and sometimes doesn't always fall into the pan. You can always poke the sides through the top loading door with a long poker. You can also poke the front with it. That is another reason I added extra to the sides to make it more vertical. I don't burn any wood at all so I don't need the extra width.
You did install the clean out plate inside the top loader door didn't you?
Remember to keep the secondary vents on the sides closed. The only adjustment you have to use to adjust the temperature of your stove is the primary air on the ash door.
The more air you feed from underneath the grates the hotter the stove. Also the faster you use the coal like a gas pedal on a car.
I also use 000 steel wool to clean the inside of the glass every other loading. Very easy to do and only takes about ten seconds.

 
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Post by DosDemiGod » Fri. Nov. 30, 2012 11:13 pm

EasyRay wrote:Remember....Always fill it to the top of the bricks and top of the front bars. You can even mound it up in the middle. Always rev it up before shaking or adding.
Because the fire box is vee shaped you will have to scrape the sides where the ash accumulates and sometimes doesn't always fall into the pan. You can always poke the sides through the top loading door with a long poker. You can also poke the front with it. That is another reason I added extra to the sides to make it more vertical. I don't burn any wood at all so I don't need the extra width.
You did install the clean out plate inside the top loader door didn't you?
Remember to keep the secondary vents on the sides closed. The only adjustment you have to use to adjust the temperature of your stove is the primary air on the ash door.
The more air you feed from underneath the grates the hotter the stove. Also the faster you use the coal like a gas pedal on a car.
I also use 000 steel wool to clean the inside of the glass every other loading. Very easy to do and only takes about ten seconds.
Hello EasyRay,

Thank you for all the helpful info. The clean out plate is installed. I also have the side air controls closed. I have the firebox loaded as you described and everything seems to be humming along nicely now :) I have been using easyoff oven cleaner on the glass and it has been working great. My crappy phone camera doesn't work well in low light.

The one thing I am learning is that burning coal requires patience....I have to resist the temptation to keep tweaking it :P

btw....what holds the extra firebrick in place?


 
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Post by EasyRay » Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 10:38 am

Nothing holds them in place. When I first added the bricks I made an angle iron to go around the top of the bricks. I found out that none are needed. They stay in place throughout the whole season all by themselves.
I usually go about 24 hours without touching the stove in the high 20's or low 30's. When it gets down in the lower temperatures I switch to a 12 - 14 hour schedule because I run the stove a little hotter.
My routine right now is to throw a layer of coal on in the morning. Go make coffee and have a little breakfast.Then the blue ladies from the new coal are dancing. I open the primary fully and rev it up a little. Shake and scrape around all four sides. Shake a little more and then fill more. If I still have blue ladies I top it off. Let the temperature come back to about 175º and set the primary to where I want it.
To get a faster response time I open the ash door. I empty my ashes every other day.
Your situation may be a little different than mine depending on your draft. If you have to much draft you may want to install a MPD or a barometric damper. I have a MPD installed right above the stove but only use it under certain conditions like very high winds.
I have the blower on my stove which helps moving the air. It is a variable speed motor and I usually only use the blower on its lowest setting mostly only ay night or when very cold during the day.

 
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Post by DosDemiGod » Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 9:50 pm

EasyRay wrote:...... I have a MPD installed right above the stove but only use it under certain conditions like very high winds.
I have the blower on my stove which helps moving the air. It is a variable speed motor and I usually only use the blower on its lowest setting mostly only ay night or when very cold during the day.
Hello... thanks for the reply. I will have to consider adding more brick to mine. I have plenty of draft with a Baro damper installed and a straight flue from the top of the stove to the roof. I do not have a blower installed but there is a large ceiling fan installed on the vaulted ceiling that seems to move the air really well. I am really learning a lot on this forum. Thanks again.

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