Coffee 12-01-12

KLook wrote:

Freddy,have you seen any brand 3/4 or 1 ton with a diesel 4x4 that not's real fancy start around $40,000 and go up to $60,000+

Take a jaunt down to Stevezee's neighborhood and look at the "poor" lobster fisherman's rides. I know of several of those $60,000+ trucks. But they ain't making any money.

Kevin

How about it Kevin! I just saw a guy we know at the post office yesterday morning. Won't mention any names but he was "famous" for dragging up hash and lives next to Bubby Wood. . That guy has a brand spankin new one everytime I see him! Allot of them have more in the truck than the house it's parked in front of.

SMITTY wrote:I hear you Keepaeyeonit -- I played that game ONCE. I'll NEVER do it again. IF I can't pay cash, I ain't buyin' it!

That's me too Smitty. Been there , done that, got the T-shirt. I want something now, I save till I can pay for it without a loan. For several years I've been paying a little extra to the principal on my house every month. Not allot, maybe $80 or so but I was amazed at how many payments it cut off.

I remember back in the 60's ridin the old panhead through back country Fla, Ga, SC, etc--big shiney CADDYLAX & LINCOLNS parked in front of a tar paper shack with kids runnin around in pretty much rags & a big color TV antenna slapped on the roof of the shanty--we regress--BUT-- fisherman, thet bust their balls during the season--work REAL hard, play real hard--a lot of EGO involved there. I've got some Portchagee Harley friends in Glouchester, Ma--they're not all that big on the new trucks, but a real nice Harley??? you betcha They DO take real good care of their families though. PS--they DO make their payments

freetown fred wrote:I remember back in the 60's ridin the old panhead through back country Fla, Ga, SC, etc--big shiney CADDYLAX & LINCOLNS parked in front of a tar paper shack with kids runnin around in pretty much rags & a big color TV antenna slapped on the roof of the shanty--we regress--BUT-- fisherman, thet bust their balls during the season--work REAL hard, play real hard--a lot of EGO involved there. I've got some Portchagee Harley friends in Glouchester, Ma--they're not all that big on the new trucks, but a real nice Harley??? you betcha They DO take real good care of their families though. PS--they DO make their payments

Heck yeah Fred. Same with most of these guys too. They know how to work for sure and it ain't easy.
Kevin and I take liberty's with them because we are them . Everybody up here has done some time on the stern of a scallop dragger in the dead of winter or worked on traps for nothing but the "honor" of waiting to fish and maybe make some money. It's a tough gig and getting tougher all the time.

In years past I was married to a Lobsterwoman and her family was hard into lobstering with a lobster pound and everything. I would not say they were hard workers at all; they worked just hard enough to drink. They still made considerable money and as my ex-father-in-law said, "You don't want to make it look like you make too much money."

And they didn't. Peeling paint, junk around the wharfs and stuff...they knew how to play the part and had the new trucks and racing lobsterboats that would win the races because they would smoke anything on the water.

What upsets me about the lobstermen is they whine constantly and without justification. They are part of a free market system unlike the dairy farmers, and do not say anything when the price is high, but when it drops oh how they whine. I often hear them compare the price of lobster being lower than the price of hotdogs...well that just is not true. They are comparing the wholesale price of lobster to the retail price of hot dogs. The farmer/rancher selling hot dogs at whole sale beef prices might be making only $1.07 per pound, yet hot dogs and hamburger retail prices are $3.50 per pound, so it is not exactly comparing apples to oranges.

I still get along with my ex-inlaws and they are good people and mean well, but what things appear, and what they really are, are often two different things.

Kevin needs to get his butt back up north there. I think the heat & half nekkid beach honeys are affecting him. Just an old farmers thoughts. SZ, will you pass that along to KL--oh wait, he'll read it right here.

Come on NS, that all covers a bunch of Dairy/ Beef farmers too. When the Farm Bill didn't get passed here just recently--milk per 100 went up $3.00--soooo, now instead of bitchin about the bill not going through--they're bitchin about price again. It's a never ending cycle.

NoSmoke wrote:In years past I was married to a Lobsterwoman and her family was hard into lobstering with a lobster pound and everything. I would not say they were hard workers at all; they worked just hard enough to drink. They still made considerable money and as my ex-father-in-law said, "You don't want to make it look like you make too much money."

And they didn't. Peeling paint, junk around the wharfs and stuff...they knew how to play the part and had the new trucks and racing lobsterboats that would win the races because they would smoke anything on the water.

What upsets me about the lobstermen is they whine constantly and without justification. They are part of a free market system unlike the dairy farmers, and do not say anything when the price is high, but when it drops oh how they whine. I often hear them compare the price of lobster being lower than the price of hotdogs...well that just is not true. They are comparing the wholesale price of lobster to the retail price of hot dogs. The farmer/rancher selling hot dogs at whole sale beef prices might be making only $1.07 per pound, yet hot dogs and hamburger retail prices are $3.50 per pound, so it is not exactly comparing apples to oranges.

I still get along with my ex-inlaws and they are good people and mean well, but what things appear, and what they really are, are often two different things.

Is that a 36" blade? Those are some nice saws.

Won't mention any names

Ha ha, his wife is a direct cousin!

BUT-- fisherman, thet bust their balls during the season--work REAL hard

HAHAHAHAHA!!! My brother retired from school teaching, a real worker, done all the things everyone up there does, cut wood, dug clams to pay for college, you name it, being on the stern was the EASIEST job he ever had. It ain't the deadliest catch fella's.

It's a tough gig and getting tougher all the time.

Yes, but most of the toughness is from over fishing and dragging. To many young fella's jump into the business because the banks give them $350,000 for a boat and gear and then they blow it on trucks and homes and etc. and have to fish not matter what to make payments. Then they howl when the make $250,000 and the gov. wants 35% for taxes and they saved ZERO. We could go on all day about this subject also. As you can tell, I'm not opinionated or anything!

Kevin needs to get his butt back up north there. I think the heat & half nekkid beach honeys are affecting him

I am in Tenn. Fred, unless things have changed since you rode that panhead, the beach honeys are south of me still. It has not been above freezing for 3 days in Machias, no thanks. My home has a 1 acre pond in Maine, you can skate on it right now.

In years past I was married to a Lobsterwoman and her family was hard into lobstering with a lobster pound and everything. I would not say they were hard workers at all; they worked just hard enough to drink. They still made considerable money and as my ex-father-in-law said, "You don't want to make it look like you make too much money."

And they didn't. Peeling paint, junk around the wharfs and stuff...they knew how to play the part and had the new trucks and racing lobsterboats that would win the races because they would smoke anything on the water.

What upsets me about the lobstermen is they whine constantly and without justification. They are part of a free market system unlike the dairy farmers, and do not say anything when the price is high, but when it drops oh how they whine. I often hear them compare the price of lobster being lower than the price of hotdogs...well that just is not true. They are comparing the wholesale price of lobster to the retail price of hot dogs. The farmer/rancher selling hot dogs at whole sale beef prices might be making only $1.07 per pound, yet hot dogs and hamburger retail prices are $3.50 per pound, so it is not exactly comparing apples to oranges.

Everything you just said my friend.

Kevin

I certainly agree with them making it tougher all time by themselves and NoSmoke paints a very accurate picture . I was trying to be nice.

I guess it's human nature, but they have created the current situation and it's true that there is allot of squawking about limits and seasons and drag sizes etc...not to mention prices and price fixing which is a whole other "kettle of fish" (Yeah I said that)

Poconoeagle wrote:........
I brought both size saws cause i didnt know which size tree would fit in the cube ...

You have a Cube ... and a Smart?? Your scarin' me Pocono!

Ahhh I just fixed a Stihl 021 for a guy. The proprietary fuel line was cracked through. Gave it back tuned and tweaked; the guy will call me soon saying he can't start it. I'll go over and start it in one pull. The guy is getting too old to play with chainsaws.
I just run two 20" McCullough Timber Bears rather than a 40" Stihl Total investment in both saws: I found one sticking out of a garbage can years ago and got it running in 1/2 hr. The other one cost me $20 and I fixed it in 5 minutes, the cord was wrapped around the recoil pulley inside the housing. Then I brought it back to the guys house that sold it to me and cut up his downed trees with it hahahahha He says to me: "Is that MY saw?"
I said, " No it's MY saw, you sold it to me." hahahha. He also wrecked his Sears 4.5 hp leaf vac, wanted to sell it to me for $80. I just declined until he put it out on the road. Then I took it and fixed it and used it to clear the leaves off the customer's yard across the road.
That little Homelite XL2 auto cut firewood for me for 3 years to feed into a Better-n-Bens insert; it's done for unless I can find an oiler rebuild kit for it.
Ya think it's time to clean up my shop yet? I can still see the bench top.

I've got a Husqvarna 450 Rancher 18". Bought it four or five years ago. When I was burning wood. Only reason I kept it is...well... I have no idea why I still have it. It's a good saw.Was completely under water in 2011 during hurricane Irene. It was in my basement sitting on a crate when my sump pump failed. Basement flooded 28" of water. Saw was submerged for two days before I could get out of my lake and to the store for a replacement sump pump. I had the saw in a pile for the trash. Figured it was done for.

I emptied the gas out of it, changed the chain oil, changed the spark plug on a whim. Didn't expect it to start. I think I had a thread about it last year. Anyway, it fired up. It's a good saw. But not nearly as nice as some of the saws in this thread.