DS Machine trip!

DS Machine trip!

PostBy: ridgeracing On: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:44 pm

Made a trip this morning to DS Machine in Lancaster PA. These units do seem well put together and I believe there set prices threw dealerships are very good. I was talking to a younger man about the stoves and he was pleasent to work with. I am purchacing one soon, but I have to work on my air circulation threw ranch house 1st and decide if I need a DS1500WH (96btu) or DS1600WH (125btu).
My ranch has a 1100sqft unfinished basement with block walls and non insulated drop ceiling and 1400sqft living area above eqauling about 2500sqft.
ridgeracing
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Stove
Stove/Furnace Make: D.S Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1600WH

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:07 am

I'd go with the 1600, but then I'm biased in that it is what I purchased.
I'm On Fire
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:20 am

I'm On Fire, what is the height that you measure from the center line of the flue outlet on the DS1600 to the floor? I'm trying to see if I can retro fit one of these into my fireplace chimney, replacing a wood burning FP insert that is presently in that location.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

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Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:44 am

Mine is only 30" from the floor to the top of the flue outlet. When I ordered my stove I had Amos cut 3" off the legs so it would fit my fireplace.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:48 am

I would guess, if one gave him enough lead time, Amos could custom make the outlet location, within some limits, to your specific requirements. :idea:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
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Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
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Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: rberq On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:10 pm

ridgeracing wrote:decide if I need a DS1500WH (96btu) or DS1600WH (125btu).

My very-rough rule of thumb is take the manufacturer's rating for a stove, divide by 2, and that is a reasonable and efficient burn rate without pushing the stove to its limits. So you are really deciding between 96/2 = 48KBtu, or 125/2 = 62KBtu. 48K does not sound like much for 2500 sq ft, especially with uninsulated cellar walls soaking up the heat. So my first reaction is, go with the bigger stove. You can get far more sophisticated about calculating heat loss from your house, and since you are just in the planning stage now is the time to do it. But be aware that a 96KBtu stove will NOT NOT NOT deliver 96K of heat into your house.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators, propane

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: Bruce M On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:33 pm

If it is a basement stove you are looking for I would look into the one I bought, #1627 basement model. It's more than plenty big to heat all your basement block walls and the house above, but can also be dialed down. Just a thought.
Bruce M
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1627 basement stove

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:18 pm

McGiever wrote:I would guess, if one gave him enough lead time, Amos could custom make the outlet location, within some limits, to your specific requirements. :idea:


They can't change where the outlet is on the stove. What they do is cut the legs down. I believe they are 4" legs that come on the stove. When I had mine ordered I asked for 1" legs.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:03 pm

I'm On Fire, how much coal does a DS1600 burn through when its just loafing along on a warm day? What is the most you ever recall feeding it in one day?
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: Paisan On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:06 pm

lsayre wrote:I'm On Fire, how much coal does a DS1600 burn through when its just loafing along on a warm day? What is the most you ever recall feeding it in one day?


When my 1600 is just loafing along on a warm day like today, it might go through a half bucket. The most would be a full bucket.

Mine DS is in my basement and live in a ranch.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: D.S. Circulator
Stove/Furnace Make: D.S.
Stove/Furnace Model: Circulator

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:09 pm

Paisan wrote:
lsayre wrote:When my 1600 is just loafing along on a warm day like today, it might go through a half bucket. The most would be a full bucket.

Mine DS is in my basement and live in a ranch.


Thanks much! They sound capable of being rather frugal with the coal. Do they have adjustable bimetallic dampers?
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:10 pm

My 1600 is in my living room. When I've just got it idling along it'll go through maybe a half bucket at 250º. When it's idling along at around 160º it'll do 24 hours on a few shovels. But when it's trucking along 500º+ I'll run a bucket and two shovel fulls in.

Right now I've got it set for about 350º and it does a full bucket.
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Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:13 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:My 1600 is in my living room. When I've just got it idling along it'll go through maybe a half bucket at 250º. When it's idling along at around 160º it'll do 24 hours on a few shovels. But when it's trucking along 500º+ I'll run a bucket and two shovel fulls in.

Right now I've got it set for about 350º and it does a full bucket.


How do you set them for a particular target surface temperature?
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: DS Machine trip!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:17 pm

That's done through the bimetallic thermostat. On my stove 2 on the dial is about 200º give or take several degrees. Right now I've got it set between 3 and 3.5 so it's actually running maybe 340º-350º.
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