Things like this don't happen in the land of the free, ...

Northern Maine wrote:Apparently you don't support seatbelt laws, helmet laws, mandatory vaccinations, etc.....people only get killed occasional with out them! The rhetoric you present in SOME arguments is not rational...but that is only my interpretation!

lsayre wrote:

Northern Maine wrote:Apparently you don't support seatbelt laws, helmet laws, mandatory vaccinations, etc.....people only get killed occasional with out them! The rhetoric you present in SOME arguments is not rational...but that is only my interpretation!

I don't know about jpete's position here, but I don't support any of those laws. I only obey them out of fear of the government gun. I'd imagine that many (most perhaps) are afraid to admit that they fear their government, but I admit it openly. I'm sure that the government fully intends for all of us to be so afraid of them that we can't even bring ourselves to admit it out of our embarrassment and shame.

I have problems in general with the criminalization of much of what falls within the realm of victimless crime. For instance, I can't imagine how anyone can commit a crime upon their own being, regardless of what one does to ones own self.

carlherrnstein wrote:Each law is like a fence panel, we are like sheep, lawmakers are like a farmer building fence around sheep.

Northern Maine wrote:So... your child goes to school and contract polio because there is not vaccination...the connotations of not having the vaccination for polio is very dangerous! Your childs life is priceless I would assume...so a mandatory vaccination would stem the strife of a child you love dearly! Yes?

lsayre wrote:

Northern Maine wrote:So... your child goes to school and contract polio because there is not vaccination...the connotations of not having the vaccination for polio is very dangerous! Your childs life is priceless I would assume...so a mandatory vaccination would stem the strife of a child you love dearly! Yes?

Abjectly no! Only a full fledged statist would accept your position unless compelled to accept it. An example of this is that I cringe (and cry inside) whenever the state forces children to undergo radiation and chemo against their parents wishes, and hunts the parents down like criminals when they try to run from this draconian torture.

grumpy wrote:

carlherrnstein wrote:Each law is like a fence panel, we are like sheep, lawmakers are like a farmer building fence around sheep.

Northern Maine wrote:
Let your child die because of your theory and ideology? That sir is irrational in my opinion....and an abortionist point of view! Radiation and chemo are one thing, but a vaccination that prevents death is another!

Northern Maine wrote:

grumpy wrote:

carlherrnstein wrote:Each law is like a fence panel, we are like sheep, lawmakers are like a farmer building fence around sheep.

CAN YOU SAY...........................PROPAGANDA! Hope you not collecting any thing from the govt....otherwise you need to re-examine yourself as being "double standard"!

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

jpete wrote:Sounds like the MSM.

grumpy wrote:

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

That does not answer my question.

lsayre wrote:So having children forces us to become wards of the state (I.E., of the statists)?

PS: I believe MSM means mainstream media.