Cops Above the Law??

Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:23 pm

I know the internet doesn't convey inflection all that well but the emoticon ;) denotes "joking" (usually).
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:32 pm

jpete wrote:I know the internet doesn't convey inflection all that well but the emoticon ;) denotes "joking" (usually).


I considered that emoticon as " Hey, I may somewhat agree with you"! :rofl: is what I consider to be joking or funny...but that's my interpretation! :)
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:38 pm

Personally I find it a little bit jpeteish & here is my interpretation of funny (smiley) so we're back at interpretation? toothy
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:46 pm

I wish that was true in Maine, but unfortunately it is not. The police here are just as bad as the crooks that they capture:

Case in point, I had an Aunt that was wed to a State Trooper and she freely admits that they used dope and had the best from the "seizures" he would take.

Pulled a State Trooper out of the wintery ditch one night. He was blistered drunk and with a chick that was half dressed; too bad it was not his wife because my aunt deserved better then to be cheated on constantly by that jerk

One night a police officer stopped another family member and was harassing him because he was seen with his wife. The confrontation was so loud...even in winter...that a neighbor called the police on the police officer fearing he would smoke the guy for cheating with his wife. The family member later filed a restraining order on the cop. Two years later they were chasing an escaped convict through our corn fields and the State Police called us up and told us what was happening and that this cop was there. That was neat.

During a hunter dispute that turned nearly deadly, The State Police Detective (a Neighbor) took us aside and said they would not do anything about the 5 guys that beat up my Uncle. He said, "Do you guys want to handle this, or do you want us to. I suggest you do because we will not do anything about it." And they didn't, they dropped the charges.

Another time we caught some people stealing firewood down our road. We followed them and called the plate into the 911 dispatcher center. They traced the plates and then said, "You guys have plenty of land to get more firewood. These guys are poor and don't have any money to pay their fines or for the firewood", and left us hanging. (It is a small place and the police know us here).

A neighbor of ours lost his job and wanted to get rid of his car payment. About 1 am in the morning he shows up on the farm saying his car is on fire. It was, and he claimed the two chainsaws and gas in the trunk caused it to melt through the hot top in the road. The police knew it was arson but did not want to get him on the charge, but they took him down and had a lie detector test done. He was so scared he was shaking, but on the way home they told him he had passed. he asked how? They said with a grin, "It is the questions we ask you". They never asked him in the lie detector test if he burned his car, they kept asking him if this person or that, burned his car. Because they never asked if HE did it, he was able to pass the test.

I could go on and on. It is a small place and I know people and have a large extended family that has been here since the county was owned by the King of England. The amount of corruption, kick-backs and dishonest citizens and police officers is staggering here, if you know what happens just under the surface. I cannot imagine what it is like in other more populated parts of the country.

But the guy in the video just went about it all wrong. We all break the law at times; you just S S S!

Shoot
Shovel
Shut UP
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:55 pm

NoSmoke wrote:I wish that was true in Maine, but unfortunately it is not. The police here are just as bad as the crooks that they capture:

Case in point, I had an Aunt that was wed to a State Trooper and she freely admits that they used dope and had the best from the "seizures" he would take.

Pulled a State Trooper out of the wintery ditch one night. He was blistered drunk and with a chick that was half dressed; too bad it was not his wife because my aunt deserved better then to be cheated on constantly by that jerk

One night a police officer stopped another family member and was harassing him because he was seen with his wife. The confrontation was so loud...even in winter...that a neighbor called the police on the police officer fearing he would smoke the guy for cheating with his wife. The family member later filed a restraining order on the cop. Two years later they were chasing an escaped convict through our corn fields and the State Police called us up and told us what was happening and that this cop was there. That was neat.

During a hunter dispute that turned nearly deadly, The State Police Detective (a Neighbor) took us aside and said they would not do anything about the 5 guys that beat up my Uncle. He said, "Do you guys want to handle this, or do you want us to. I suggest you do because we will not do anything about it." And they didn't, they dropped the charges.

Another time we caught some people stealing firewood down our road. We followed them and called the plate into the 911 dispatcher center. They traced the plates and then said, "You guys have plenty of land to get more firewood. These guys are poor and don't have any money to pay their fines or for the firewood", and left us hanging. (It is a small place and the police know us here).

A neighbor of ours lost his job and wanted to get rid of his car payment. About 1 am in the morning he shows up on the farm saying his car is on fire. It was, and he claimed the two chainsaws and gas in the trunk caused it to melt through the hot top in the road. The police knew it was arson but did not want to get him on the charge, but they took him down and had a lie detector test done. He was so scared he was shaking, but on the way home they told him he had passed. he asked how? They said with a grin, "It is the questions we ask you". They never asked him in the lie detector test if he burned his car, they kept asking him if this person or that, burned his car. Because they never asked if HE did it, he was able to pass the test.

I could go on and on. It is a small place and I know people and have a large extended family that has been here since the county was owned by the King of England. The amount of corruption, kick-backs and dishonest citizens and police officers is staggering here, if you know what happens just under the surface. I cannot imagine what it is like in other more populated parts of the country.

But the guy in the video just went about it all wrong. We all break the law at times; you just S S S!

Shoot
Shovel
Shut UP


Great synopsis!
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: lsayre On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:57 pm

I have heard that many cops routinely bulk up on steroids.
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: Rwalker On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:57 pm

Much better approach...however, the officer would have had to give the person permission to be recorded! :roll


Not in PA. PA law states that a police officer performing his duties does not fall under the wire tapping law and can be video and audio recorded as long as you do not interfere with him performing said duties.

MI may be the same. Not sure.
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:01 pm

I must be honest too though; the police here have acted the other way. When a neighbor was growing dope on us, the helicopters that fly overhead found it and they police showed up, blue lights blazing yelling that they were going to arrest us. The Game Warden comes on the scene and shakes his head, "I can assure you, these people are not the culprits" and explained that we are hard working farmers. And they found out who did it and left us alone. The Warden did that because he has asked us permission to use on land to catch people poaching, growing dope and other illegal activities.

Another time they sent a young Game Warden here who was VERY aggressive to the local population. (4) times he went into the woods to find his tires shot out by the local boys. The powers that be decided to show the kid a little leniency was in order sometimes and sent him way up North as punishment, and to learn that you got to get along with the local population.

A few years ago a local woman called the police because it was harvest season and our trucks were coming down a steep hill with their jake brakes on. These are farm trucks and not always in the best shape, but they just followed a truck and never harrased us at all. They knew we were just trying to get the corn crop in before winter.

Another time a cop stopped a VERY questionable manure hauling truck if it was fit to drive. It really wasn't, but the driver said, "I think so. I drive it", and the cop let him drive off, knowing if he called a weigh wagon in, there would be more fines then the milk we produce is worth in a months time.

The point is...we all get along here. Yes we break the law, sometimes our trucks are not registered for the road and we haul corn and manure anyway, and sometimes we haul too much wood, and sometimes they get drunk and need a pull to get out of the ditch. Its not a big deal. No one is really above the law, we just try to get by the best we can. I'll gladly overlook an infraction by a cop because they have overlooked a few f our misdeeds. Overall it is a safe place and Maine is one of the most crime-free states...or at least have the least amount of reported crimes.

Its all good!
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:03 pm

Rwalker wrote:
Much better approach...however, the officer would have had to give the person permission to be recorded! :roll


Not in PA. PA law states that a police officer performing his duties does not fall under the wire tapping law and can be video and audio recorded as long as you do not interfere with him performing said duties.

MI may be the same. Not sure.


Great to know...wonder if driving down the street without lights and sirens constitutes his duties? Just curious...not disputing.
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:07 pm

NoSmoke wrote:I must be honest too though; the police here have acted the other way. When a neighbor was growing dope on us, the helicopters that fly overhead found it and they police showed up, blue lights blazing yelling that they were going to arrest us. The Game Warden comes on the scene and shakes his head, "I can assure you, these people are not the culprits" and explained that we are hard working farmers. And they found out who did it and left us alone. The Warden did that because he has asked us permission to use on land to catch people poaching, growing dope and other illegal activities.

Another time they sent a young Game Warden here who was VERY aggressive to the local population. (4) times he went into the woods to find his tires shot out by the local boys. The powers that be decided to show the kid a little leniency was in order sometimes and sent him way up North as punishment, and to learn that you got to get along with the local population.

A few years ago a local woman called the police because it was harvest season and our trucks were coming down a steep hill with their jake brakes on. These are farm trucks and not always in the best shape, but they just followed a truck and never harrased us at all. They knew we were just trying to get the corn crop in before winter.

Another time a cop stopped a VERY questionable manure hauling truck if it was fit to drive. It really wasn't, but the driver said, "I think so. I drive it", and the cop let him drive off, knowing if he called a weigh wagon in, there would be more fines then the milk we produce is worth in a months time.
AGAIN...you are "spot on" with your synopsis! Maine...the way ife should be without the black flies and mosquitoes of course! :D
The point is...we all get along here. Yes we break the law, sometimes our trucks are not registered for the road and we haul corn and manure anyway, and sometimes we haul too much wood, and sometimes they get drunk and need a pull to get out of the ditch. Its not a big deal. No one is really above the law, we just try to get by the best we can. I'll gladly overlook an infraction by a cop because they have overlooked a few f our misdeeds. Overall it is a safe place and Maine is one of the most crime-free states...or at least have the least amount of reported crimes.

Its all good!


Great synopsis once again! Maine...the way life should be...less the BUGS! :D
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: Rwalker On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:17 pm

I would say duties would be if he is on duty. If he is on duty, he is working, therefore he is performing his duties.

I have a great friend who is a state policeman, corporal, and a sniper on the SERT team. He is awesome, a great family man, and would give me the shirt off his back. I love him like he is a blood brother. Do I think he is corrupt at all? No. Do I think he breaks the law from time to time (seat belts, driving buzzed, etc.) probably. Do I care? Nope. If I was ever being held hostage I would want him to be the trigger man. His aim is DEAD on...

He sees and deals with *censored* on a daily basis that most of us couldnt handle. Dead babies, pulling the trigger on someone, whole families dead in horrific car accidents, just all around terrible stuff. Considering that, you would think he would be an ass, but he is humble and will always be my brother. Plus my kids love when he shows up in his car and puts the lights and sirens on. And I get a good laugh when he calls me in the middle of the night to tell me he is sitting in the woods staking out someones house freezing his ass off! :P
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:22 pm

Northern Maine wrote:
jpete wrote:I know the internet doesn't convey inflection all that well but the emoticon ;) denotes "joking" (usually).


I considered that emoticon as " Hey, I may somewhat agree with you"! :rofl: is what I consider to be joking or funny...but that's my interpretation! :)


I wasn't joking THAT much! :)
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:24 pm

Rwalker wrote: Do I think he breaks the law from time to time (seat belts, driving buzzed, etc.) probably. Do I care? Nope.


Does HE care if you do? Would he write you a ticket for it?

More importantly, would he write ME a ticket for it?
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:28 pm

jpete wrote:
Rwalker wrote: Do I think he breaks the law from time to time (seat belts, driving buzzed, etc.) probably. Do I care? Nope.


Does HE care if you do? Would he write you a ticket for it?

More importantly, would he write ME a ticket for it?


Interpretation....gods gift to man!
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Re: Cops Above the Law??

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:34 pm

Northern Maine wrote:
Interpretation....gods gift to man!


Are we a country of laws or interpretations?

Must we be held to the vague and random notions of a sociopath with a gun?
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