First days with new DS1600 stove!

Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: ridgeracing On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:00 pm

I see the gist of not letting coal go below hopper. It started getting colder here, so I have upped my control dial to 3 1/2 with a max number being 5 and a stove temp of 400, dampner 90% closed, full of red coals and lots of dancing blues. I no the manual says not to over fire past 600deg. , If I was to need the heat, is it safe to run continuos at 600deg. ? That is with guage sitting on top of stove, I guess thats the best way to get stove temp?
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:16 am

What is the stack temp...
you may be sending a bunch up the pipe...
I have gone to 700* for a day or two...
no issues...
the sweet spot is 350-400...
if you are always in the 5-600 you might need a bigger stove...
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: rberq On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:49 am

CapeCoaler wrote:the sweet spot is 350-400...

Yes, that also seems to be true with my DS1300.
When they say "Don't fire at over 600 degrees" its kind of silly, because they don't say WHERE on the stove to measure the temperature. The hottest I have run so far is about 475 measured on the top surface behind the hopper cover. But I anticipate higher temps when the weather gets really cold.
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:59 am

The first season I had my 1600 I had the stove at 725° for a few days during a real cold snap. Of course that's using a magnetic thermometer so it was probably just above 600°.
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:07 am

rberq wrote:Also it's a good idea not let the hopper get completely empty, and not shake down too much at one time. Otherwise when you fill the hopper (or shake down a lot) you can end up with a layer of cold new coal on top of your fire. Boom potential. I'd recommend shaking twice a day instead of once, even if it's only a "partial" shake, and top off the hopper then if there's any danger of it emptying.


Every time i read about the suggested shake down process on here I think of Gunnery Sgt. Tom Highway, who says that if ya shake it more than once ladies, that constitutes pleasure and we're not in that business!!! :lol:

there are so many quotes from that movie that make me laugh ....
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:28 am

CapeCoaler wrote:What is the stack temp...
you may be sending a bunch up the pipe...
I have gone to 700* for a day or two...
no issues...
the sweet spot is 350-400...
if you are always in the 5-600 you might need a bigger stove...


I think that's pretty close to the sweet spot for any hand fed coal stove Cape. You can run hotter or cooler but that does seem to be the "65" thruway speed.
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:30 pm

How deep is the firebox on the 1600, or basically, how deep is the bed of coal when filled to the top of the firebrick?

Thanks!
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:23 pm

Top of the fire brick is 9" I believe. So with coal mounded it's 12" I think.
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:12 pm

titleist1 wrote:Every time i read about the suggested shake down process on here I think of Gunnery Sgt. Tom Highway, who says that if ya shake it more than once ladies, that constitutes pleasure and we're not in that business!!!

What da ya mean?? I always enjoy shakin it :lol: er uh, the grates I mean :funny:
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: ridgeracing On: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:23 pm

With stove set at 3 1/2 on dial, 400deg stove temp, dampner closed 90%. I have a stove pipe temp of 250deg. 2 feet above stove. (single wall pipe) Is that the norm?
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:36 am

With the same settings as you I get 250° at the stove outlet and 150° about 2' after that.
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: ridgeracing On: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:37 pm

dampner closed or open? I am wondering since my dampner is 90% closed if i would get a higher chimney pipe temp? Today I have it at 2 1/2, 280- 300 stove temp and 150 chimney temp.
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:34 am

You're talking about the MPD I assume and yes if you opened it as one does when shaking down and filling the stove or reving up the fire, you will get a higher pipe/stack temp when open due to higher draft pulling the flue gasses faster. Lower is better on the stack relative to the stove temp since it's more efficient not wasting that heat up the chimney.
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Re: First days with new DS1600 stove!

PostBy: Lightning On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:02 am

ridgeracing wrote:With stove set at 3 1/2 on dial, 400deg stove temp, dampner closed 90%. I have a stove pipe temp of 250deg. 2 feet above stove. (single wall pipe) Is that the norm?
I'm On Fire wrote:With the same settings as you I get 250° at the stove outlet and 150° about 2' after that.
ridgeracing wrote:dampner closed or open? I am wondering since my dampner is 90% closed if i would get a higher chimney pipe temp? Today I have it at 2 1/2, 280- 300 stove temp and 150 chimney temp.


These variations you guys are seeing could be because of draft pressure. Ridgeracing is probably running a higher draft than IOF which would be pulling in more combustion air making his stove run hotter at the same setting as IOF.
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