What is Libertarianism?

What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:14 am

David Boaz, the executive vice president of the Cato Institute, an American libertarian "think tank" headquartered in Washington, D.C., will assist us here:

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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:35 am

The fundamental essence of libertarianism is the "Non-Aggression Principle".

http://www.yaliberty.org/posts/discovering-libertarianism-non-aggression-principle-introduction

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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:51 am

Nice Larry, already sent it on to a couple others.

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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:29 am

.. and let's guess the percent of libt urds that read educational documents from the revered Cato Institute. Whatever it was does once not matter. Now it's gimme more phones and beat the c rap out of anybody that stands in our way. It does no good to post things that in some way attempts to validate these idots. we need to take one trillion bucks a year out of the system NOW, there are no other issues of any consequence. I need a vacation in HI.
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:07 pm

How Libertarians see Republicans and Democrats:

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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:42 pm

lsayre wrote:David Boaz, the executive vice president of the Cato Institute, an American libertarian "think tank" headquartered in Washington, D.C., will assist us here:



Simply put....you have agreed to live in the society of the U.S.A.! If it does not agree with the principles of your knowledge...you do have the right to leave!
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:49 pm

Is that what the Founding Fathers taught us?
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:54 pm

jpete wrote:Is that what the Founding Fathers taught us?


Mr. Boaz just presented this in his interpretation in the last 5 minutes of his presentation!
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:04 pm

[quote="lsayre"]The fundamental essence of libertarianism is the "Non-Aggression Principle".

Break free from the corruptness and move to a society of utopia....find it and I may follow! ;)
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:09 pm

Northern Maine wrote:Simply put....you have agreed to live in the society of the U.S.A.! If it does not agree with the principles of your knowledge...you do have the right to leave!


All I've done is be born here. How do you see that as my having agreed with anything? And perhaps more importantly, how and why does that compel me to either agree with anything at the point of a government gun, or to leave? You clearly see society as being greater than the individual. By logical extension, you must agree that the needs of society place a noose around the neck of my individual abilities. Therefore I must ask you, what are the needs of society?
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:31 pm

[quote="lsayre"]How Libertarians see Republicans and Democrats:

Live life according to you choice! Suffer the consequences of you choices when an entity greater than you decides your choice is wrong. That could be law, society or the almighty! The first two are escapable, the last is not!
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:40 pm

lsayre wrote:
Northern Maine wrote:Simply put....you have agreed to live in the society of the U.S.A.! If it does not agree with the principles of your knowledge...you do have the right to leave!


All I've done is be born here. How do you see that as my having agreed with anything? And perhaps more importantly, how and why does that compel me to either agree with anything at the point of a government gun, or to leave? You clearly see society as being greater than the individual. By logical extension, you must agree that the needs of society place a noose around the neck of my individual abilities. Therefore I must ask you, what are the needs of society?


You mere presence in a society that you disagree with is evidence that your choices are in agreement with it! Have you had someone point a gun at you and tell you not to make a choice? Society is only representative of the support you show it....abiding by societies rule show that you support it...otherwise you would find a society of your liking. The needs of society are presented my Mr. Boaz....if you live in a society.... you choose to live by the rules that are set forth by that society...if not....you have the right, liberty and freedom to find a society that fits your needs according to the beliefs you have based on your current knowledge.
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:05 pm

Northern Maine wrote:You mere presence in a society that you disagree with is evidence that your choices are in agreement with it! Have you had someone point a gun at you and tell you not to make a choice? Society is only representative of the support you show it....abiding by societies rule show that you support it...otherwise you would find a society of your liking. The needs of society are presented my Mr. Boaz....if you live in a society.... you choose to live by the rules that are set forth by that society...if not....you have the right, liberty and freedom to find a society that fits your needs according to the beliefs you have based on your current knowledge.

The society you outline would be pretty neat. You would not need any lawmaking body or president; just law enforcement because all the laws are already there and if you don't like it , leave
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:28 pm

Northern Maine wrote:You mere presence in a society that you disagree with is evidence that your choices are in agreement with it!


A clearer case of circular reasoning would be hard to come by. If there is any rational here whatsoever it would seem to imply that my merely legalistic straw man identity as pinned upon me by the ruling authorities lording over the society into which I was merely born has bound the real me into mandatory and indefinite servitude. Somehow this appears to fail the test of original Constitutional intent, and it certainly fails to comply with the expectations of those who penned the Declaration Of Independence. Otherwise the Founders would have been bound by their mere birth (and thereby presence) into forever bowing to and paying homage and servitude to the King of England. You seem to be demanding no more or no less than this.
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Re: What is Libertarianism?

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:15 pm

Northern Maine wrote:
lsayre wrote:
Northern Maine wrote:Simply put....you have agreed to live in the society of the U.S.A.! If it does not agree with the principles of your knowledge...you do have the right to leave!


All I've done is be born here. How do you see that as my having agreed with anything? And perhaps more importantly, how and why does that compel me to either agree with anything at the point of a government gun, or to leave? You clearly see society as being greater than the individual. By logical extension, you must agree that the needs of society place a noose around the neck of my individual abilities. Therefore I must ask you, what are the needs of society?


You mere presence in a society that you disagree with is evidence that your choices are in agreement with it! Have you had someone point a gun at you and tell you not to make a choice? Society is only representative of the support you show it....abiding by societies rule show that you support it...otherwise you would find a society of your liking. The needs of society are presented my Mr. Boaz....if you live in a society.... you choose to live by the rules that are set forth by that society...if not....you have the right, liberty and freedom to find a society that fits your needs according to the beliefs you have based on your current knowledge.


So you're stating that living in America, we all acknowledge that we have a gun to our heads?

Certainly doesn't sound like the "Land of the Free" to me? Sounds like "Land of the Subjugated"
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