15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Wiz On: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:15 pm

Items to make Coal Vac
a) steel drum
b) 3-4 inch toilet flange
c) pvc pipe sizes (1/2 inch) & (2 inch) & ( 1 1/2 inch)
d) One 2 in 90 elbow & One 1/2 in 90 elbow & Two 1 1/2 90 elbow. Note more maybe needed for your set-up
f) Shop vac minimum 4 hp
g) Micro filter BAG for shop vac
Drum lid Design lid to create a cyclone. This is done by placing a 1 1/2 (90 degree elbow) on the bottom side of lid. Image shows what you need to create.
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Intake pipe Intake pipe size 2 in. You'll need to connect 1/2 in pipe using 90 degree elbow as shown on image.. This will allow pipe to be buried in coal, without it'll become air bound.
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Steel drum 15 gal drum with removable lid ( grease drums) Attach toilet flange on bottom of drum. Note location of drum will determine a how full hopper gets. Gravity will stop once coal in hopper meets coal in discharge chute.
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Vac line connected to shop vac use 1 1/2 in pipe

Here is video of system. Note I've added 1/2 air vent pipe that isn't on this video clip. Since it was installed there is no more air bound causing lost vacuum. Intake pipe is now 4 ft deep to the floor of bin. If you to get a shock from static electric add a ground wire. Attach to the end of intake pipe to steel drum then to water pipe. Don't use fiber drum because it'll collapse.

Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Wiz On: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:29 pm

Very cool! Lots cheaper and fewer moving parts than my auger system. I'd like to see more detailed pics too when you get a chance. So all the dust is going into the shop vac?
90% of dust is collected in shop vac. Making hole in bottom of drum to about 2 1/2 inch will help slow coal speed which it turn keeps rest of the dust down.


I like this idea.Interested in how many filters it uses.
I'm using 1 micro filter bag in shop vac.. Don't use fiber dust filter. Using bag will contain dust in shop vac
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:35 pm

I wonder if a shop vac would lift pea sized coal?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)


Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:02 pm

Very slick, Wiz :clap:

I had an old shop vac that had a fitting on the outlet that would accept a hose. I haven't seen a modern unit with something like that. I wonder if one could make a housing for the vac and vent it to the outside? You'd never have to worry about getting coal dust in the house.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker Koker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Casting Vigilant II 2310
Other Heating: #2 Oil Furnace

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: blrman07 On: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:08 pm

Very slick system. :idea:
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:22 pm

Very nice! I like that. You done good! :D
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: bsteckel On: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:51 am

from your experience, do you think it would work with buck sized coal? neat idea and well planned out :D
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA600
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Stove/Furnace Model: VA600

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Wiz On: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:13 am

from your experience, do you think it would work with buck sized coal? neat idea and well planned out
.

I'm going to burn buck nexts year, I'll get couple of buckets of buck this weekend to test. I've use this method on 50/50 corn and pellet with no problem.
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:54 pm

Would this work with the ash.... Hmmmmm
Put Steel 55 gallon barrel outside with piping....
Park dump trailer under it
cArNaGe
 

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Wiz On: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:18 pm

cArNaGe wrote:Would this work with the ash.... Hmmmmm
Put Steel 55 gallon barrel outside with piping....
Park dump trailer under it



Here is idea for ash... Put 55 gal drum with shop vac motor mounted on lid. Then place it on your trailer, once filled haul away.
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: 331camaro On: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:17 pm

nice one wiz. now ya got me thinkin about bulk + storage. the wife is going to hate me lol!!!
331camaro
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker k6
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Dirty Steve On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:41 pm

Wiz,

Did you use the commercially available lid or did you create your own. I'm beginning my search for a 15 gallon metal drum. 30 gallon trash can would be too big for me.

http://www.woodcraft.com/product/200431 ... e-lid.aspx

This place did not mention a lid for other than a 30 gallon or 5 gallon size. Any additional thoughts and photos would be helpful.

Oh, what is the flapper device on the bottom also? Is this a "gerry rigged" item or available on box stor shelves? If your creation- is it spring loaded?

Thanks for your help,

Steve
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Oil- Off line
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KA-6

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: vulcan On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:12 pm

I have been thinking of an ash removal system to an outside drum similiar to what you guys are talking about. I have a dust collector blower that I retrieved from a dumpster at work and thought it would work well to attach a hose and blow the ash outside to a drum. this is on my to do list. or should i say to try list.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: keystoker koker 160

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Wiz On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:00 pm

Did you use the commercially available lid or did you create your own. I'm beginning my search for a 15 gallon metal drum. 30 gallon trash can would be too big for me.


http://www.woodcraft.com/product/200431
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
... e-lid.aspx

This place did not mention a lid for other than a 30 gallon or 5 gallon size. Any additional thoughts and photos would be helpful.

Oh, what is the flapper device on the bottom also? Is this a "gerry rigged" item or available on box stor shelves? If your creation- is it spring loaded?


Steve the image was just to show what your steel drum lid needs to look like.. On steel drum lid you need to make 2 holes one for intake pipe that will be straight . Air take pipe will have a 90 degree elbow inside. Go to your local garage to get your drum, they'll most likely just give it to you. free is for me :D https://www.motionindustries.com/motion ... 44_W_L.jpg

The flapper is Jerry Rigged. I used plastic lid from coffee container. You can use a ball valve but that's just wasting money. Attach lid with anything that will give it movement to swing open and closed. Once you turn shop vac on it'll create a vacuum and lid will close.
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

Re: 15 Gal Coal Vac System Tutorial

PostBy: Joeski On: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:39 am

Great idea Wiz, thanks for posting. A few questions.

1.) I didn't even see where you had the Shop Vac. Can it be placed anywhere?

2.) What did you clean the last bit of the grease out of the barrel with or did the garage already have it cleaned out for you?

3.) 15 gallons of coal is about 150 pounds? So once a day you can feed your hopper slowly but surely all the coal it would need, maybe even 2 days. That is really a great idea :!: :idea:
Joeski
 
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