Uae Harmony coal

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Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Rich9876 On: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:59 pm

This is the first year I've burned Uae harmony coal and so far its great. The amount of ash that I have is about 1/3 less then with any of the other coal that I've burned over the last 2 years. I've also noticed that this is also the dustiest coal that I've had. Is this common with Uae Harmony coal? To reduce the amount of dust I spray it with mineral oil every time after I am done getting buckets out of my coal bin. Does anyone know why some coal has white ash and others like Uae Harmony has red ash?
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:43 am

Rich9876 wrote:Does anyone know why some coal has white ash and others like Uae Harmony has red ash?


I've read that red ash has a higher iron content which forms Iron Oxide (rust) when its burnt. This gives the ash its red hue. The red and white ash do seem to have slightly different burning characteristics too.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: LDPosse On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:50 am

Rich9876 wrote:I've also noticed that this is also the dustiest coal that I've had. Is this common with Uae Harmony coal?


I have noticed the same thing, I just assumed that they didn't wash the coal before selling it.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: steamup On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:39 am

LDPosse wrote:
Rich9876 wrote:I've also noticed that this is also the dustiest coal that I've had. Is this common with Uae Harmony coal?


I have noticed the same thing, I just assumed that they didn't wash the coal before selling it.



Bingo - They do not have a heavy media process. The only crush and screen. But they must know what they are doing as no one here has anything bad to say about it.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:24 am

Aside from the dust, it is an excellent product.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: mattcoalburner On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:45 am

Red ash is Iron, Red ash coal is not usually as good as white ash coal due to more Iron which in turn means less carbon
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:30 am

mattcoalburner wrote:Red ash is Iron, Red ash coal is not usually as good as white ash coal due to more Iron which in turn means less carbon


That's funny you mentioned that Matt. There was a couple posts back 4 or 5 years ago where all the mines products were displayed. Ash percent, Btu's/lb., volitiles, etc. IIRC,,,and that's a big IF, the top 5 tests came from mines with red ash. Superior, C. Lenig's, UAE, Summit, Sherman. At the time, the mines they were pulling from were mostly red ash. :)
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:35 am

Another trick we all learned fron J.C., we stop at carwash and give it a wash. :) Keeps the dust down to minimal.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:08 am

Scottscoaled wrote:Another trick we all learned fron J.C., we stop at carwash and give it a wash. :) Keeps the dust down to minimal.


That is a good idea.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Rich9876 On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:49 am

That is a good idea. The only problem with that is I don't get my coal I have to have it delievered. So I'm at the mercy of the delievery man.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:08 pm

I burn UAE pea coal and I find it's dustier than the Superior coal I burned previously. I think going to a car wash is a good idea. I just need to find one that would allow me to drive my trailer through it. Or I could just dump it on my driveway blacktop and let mother nature do the job. After a couple of rains and/or some hosing down, I could then move it to my coal shed. I dump my coal anyway, so it's just a matter of moving it later rather that right after I buy it.

What's really needed is an exhaust hood over the places you handle the coal or ash. I really don't like the coal dust in my shop room where the boiler is located. Ideally something like a central woodworking dust and chip collection system.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:07 am

Yeah, letting mother nature do her work is an easy answer too. This year my TT load was dumped during the monsoon we had during September. It made the loader work and cleanup real easy. No dust at all.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: mattcoalburner On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:31 am

That's funny you mentioned that Matt. There was a couple posts back 4 or 5 years ago where all the mines products were displayed. Ash percent, Btu's/lb., volitiles, etc. IIRC,,,and that's a big IF, the top 5 tests came from mines with red ash. Superior, C. Lenig's, UAE, Summit, Sherman. At the time, the mines they were pulling from were mostly red ash. :)[/quote]

I would love to see those test results, I have been around coal my entire life living in the heart of the coal region, and I can assure you people in these parts, especially the old timers who mined and know coal, DO NOT want red ash coal if given a choice.
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:51 am

That's pretty good you say that. I guess Harmony isn't the weapon of choice for a stoker and Superior for a handfired. What you are saying just blows the whole website away from what has been the norm for the past 4-5 years. Let's put it this way, why don't you come up with test results that prove me wrong. The coal suppliers you keep championing aren't without their following but when it comes right down to it, everyone says the coal burns like this mine or that mine. As far as old timers,,,,, the last EFM 700 I removed was from a 96 year old guy from Leighighton, He said that the coal he had just bought was some of the best he had burned. The guy had trucked it 70 miles from Hazleton. Seemed to think it was Jeddo. He also said that the local coal wasn't that good but was all that was available. He was sorta funny. He said "10 coffee cans a day of coal and 1 coffee can a day of ash." For your particular region, white ash may be a better product than the local red ash. Hasn't been that way for me. I will still buy the TT load of Harmony any day over the TT of Lehigh :)
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Re: Uae Harmony coal

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:06 am

Most all the blaschak I've gotten up here is red ash coal and this year's stove coal in particular seems to have allot more ash than last years. I've used some Centralia stove coal (last season) that was excellent. White ash, low dust and way less ash than this year's Blas. I'd like to get a TT load of UAE or Superior in the future if I can get stove sized.
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