Chimney Liner Experts Question

Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:03 am

Can anybody tell me the difference between a 316 TI and a 316 L liner and which is better for burning Coal?

Thanks!
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Koker
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:15 am

Jrn8265,316ti is better but SS,flyash,and moisture don't mix and I know this first hand I had a pc of 316ti last only two years before it was full of holes but I didn't clean it real good at the end of the season ether.Clay liners are better (but thats my opinion)but right now I'm having a big draft problem and I'm puting in a 2 ply 316ti liner this is a bandaid fix for a bigger problem(I think)if you do a search on SS liners you will see what I am talking about.Take care Keepaeyeonit :)
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:39 am

Thanks, just was not sure what the specific difference was between the L and the TI.
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:50 am

I too had 16' of 316Ti liner that lasted 2 seasons. I'm now just using my clay/brick/chimney.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:56 am

I'm no metallurgist, but here is a comparison of the 316ti and 316L grades.


http://www.bssa.org.uk/cms/File/SSAS2.2 ... 0Types.pdf
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:37 am

jrn8265 wrote:Can anybody tell me the difference between a 316 TI and a 316 L liner and which is better for burning Coal?

Thanks!


TI has titanium and is the preferred type for coal. If properly cared for and not in a high moisture environment, it will last. Always better to use a masonry chimney though.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:31 am

Most times a clay lined chimney is the best. Is you chimney in that bad of shape ? Why are you installing a liner? If you do go with a SS liner for coal it is best to be insulated as well.
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:37 am

There are other types Cast-in-Place Liners as well. http://www.supaflu.com http://www.solidflue.com/ http://www.goldenflue.com/
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: Lightning On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:48 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:I too had 16' of 316Ti liner that lasted 2 seasons. I'm now just using my clay/brick/chimney.


You doing it yourself? Would love to see pics and step by step as it comes along :D
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:30 pm

Lightning wrote:
I'm On Fire wrote:I too had 16' of 316Ti liner that lasted 2 seasons. I'm now just using my clay/brick/chimney.


You doing it yourself? Would love to see pics and step by step as it comes along :D


Doing what myself? The chimney was existing. I just had a liner because when I was burning wood I was told I should use one. I did add 2' to my chimney this past summer. There's a thread of that around here somewhere. The additional height did not help my draft issues like I thought it would.
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: Lightning On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:35 pm

Oh man, I'm sorry :oops: I mis-read it thought it said, "I'm now just laying my clay/brick/chimney. :lol:
Sleep deprivation :wacko:

I'm On Fire wrote:I too had 16' of 316Ti liner that lasted 2 seasons. I'm now just using my clay/brick/chimney.
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:40 pm

Lightning wrote:Oh man, I'm sorry :oops: I mis-read it thought it said, "I'm now just laying my clay/brick/chimney. :lol:
Sleep deprivation :wacko:

I'm On Fire wrote:I too had 16' of 316Ti liner that lasted 2 seasons. I'm now just using my clay/brick/chimney.

No worries, I know exactly how that is. My daughter has been sick so she hasn't been sleeping.
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: Lightning On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:42 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:I did add 2' to my chimney this past summer. There's a thread of that around here somewhere. The additional height did not help my draft issues like I thought it would.

Could you direct me to this thread? I'd like to see if I can help...
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Re: Chimney Liner Experts Question

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:00 pm

Lightning wrote:
I'm On Fire wrote:I did add 2' to my chimney this past summer. There's a thread of that around here somewhere. The additional height did not help my draft issues like I thought it would.

Could you direct me to this thread? I'd like to see if I can help...

It's happened!!! And only two seasons in...

There it is. It's a 6" outlet coming off the stove then into an 8"x12" clay and brick lined chimney. I think the problem is the chimney is honestly just too big. The chimney has never had a fire in it until this season. Prior to that I had a 316Ti liner running through it that rotted in two seasons.
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