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KLook · By: **KLook** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:39 am

Nice Richard, I think my old Rem model 8 was on the ban list.

And another thing don't go spending my tax dollars buying up guns that will not solve the problem. They will just continue on to get them all as the killing will continue.

Kevin

Flyer5 · By: **Flyer5** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:42 am

People don't think the 2 are similar to what happened Friday but they are no different. Remember 911 3000+ people killed not one shot fired. Oklahoma City bombing children died not one shot fired. Getting rid of scary looking guns WILL NOT FIX ANYTHING!

SuperBeetle · By: **SuperBeetle** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:44 am

Flyer5 wrote:People don't think the 2 are similar to what happened Friday but they are no different. Remember 911 3000+ people killed not one shot fired. Oklahoma City bombing children died not one shot fired. Getting rid of scary looking guns WILL NOT FIX ANYTHING!

That would be correct

Richard S. · By: **Richard S.** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:48 am

Flyer5 wrote: Remember 911 3000+ people killed not one shot fired.

......armed with nothing more than box cutters and it's extraordinary the death toll wasn't much higher.

Canaan coal man · By: **Canaan coal man** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:50 am

EarthWindandFire wrote:Here's an idea, what if the Government offered $ 500.00 dollars to anyone that turned in a semi-auto/assault rifle good toward the purchase of a (5-shot or less) standard shotgun or rifle.

Two problems, One the Majority of most semi-auto/assault rifles on the market are worth well over $500.00. No one will want to take a 300-1000 hit on there firearm. Second Were will the money come from? The tax payer? Why should I pay the goverment to take away my Firearms at a lower cost than its worth?

All and All we can debate all we want about who is write or wrong. The real thing to remember is we are digging 27 holes this week.
20 of them are small holes, for small coffens.... we should never have to lay a kid sized coffen in the ground!!!!!!

R.I.P. Sandy Hook Elementry Shcool.

SuperBeetle · By: **SuperBeetle** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:51 am

EarthWindandFire wrote:The average american has no need for a gun like the AR-15. Isn't a lever-action rifle like the Winchester model 1894 or the Marlin 336 enough?

For example, just so I was informed with the right information about the AR-15 before making this post I googled it, the search came up with hits like "AR-15 vs AK47" etc etc.

I am more anti-big-government than most, however, I see no need for anyone to own an assault rifle. Being able to spray the side of a barn with bullets is not the same as self-protection nor does it fall under your right to bear arms. I would love to drive down the back roads in a Sherman Tank like James Garner did, but a civilian should not own a tank nor an assault rifle like an AR-15 or any other brand or model thats similar.

I couldn't disagree with you anymore on this issue. I never sprayed the side of a barn with any weapon. I have however sprayed a lot of targets with a lot of different weapons. Exactly what did you find on your google search? Who are you to decide what my rights are?

Flyer5 · By: **Flyer5** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:02 am

Canaan coal man wrote:
All and All we can debate all we want about who is write or wrong. The real thing to remember is we are digging 27 holes this week.
20 of them are small holes, for small coffens.... we should never have to lay a kid sized coffen in the ground!!!!!!

R.I.P. Sandy Hook Elementry Shcool.

That is correct. And I would like to see people focus on the real problem. The mentally ill. The domestic issues and family values, morals in this country are going in the toilet. I do not know what the fix is. But buying back a few pieces of metal is not it. I am still having a hard time accepting what happened in Sandy Hook. I have a 5yr old and cant imagine the sadness the families are feeling. But the death of all those children and adults will be in vein if they don't work to resolve the real issues that caused this to happen. It was not the tools used it is much more complicated than that.

EarthWindandFire · By: **EarthWindandFire** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:14 am

First, I am fighting a losing gun battle here and I know it. I'm not trying to change minds, just expressing my opinion. I am aware of the cost of guns, a normal gun should cost around 300 dollars. So, for those of you spending more than that, that's your business and your responsibility.

My family still has the double-barrel shotgun used by my great-great grandfather to shoot ducks in Long Island sound during the 1880's. He lived in a log cabin in the town of Babylon. He didn't need a shotgun that can discharge rounds faster than the ducks could drop from the sky.

jpete · By: **jpete** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:18 am

EarthWindandFire wrote:First, I am fighting a losing gun battle here and I know it. I'm not trying to change minds, just expressing my opinion. I am aware of the cost of guns, a normal gun should cost around 300 dollars. So, for those of you spending more than that, that's your business and your responsibility.

My family still has the double-barrel shotgun used by my great-great grandfather that he used to shoot ducks in Long Island sound during the 1880's. He lived in a log cabin in the town of Babylon. He didn't need a shotgun that can discharge rounds faster than the ducks could drop from the sky.

The 2A ISN'T about hunting.

When the Constitution was written, there were many more ships with cannon in private hands than in the US Navy.

And that is how it should be. The people should always be able to overwhelm a government gone off the rails.

Ed.A · By: **Ed.A** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:20 am

EarthWindandFire wrote:First, I am fighting a losing gun battle here and I know it. I'm not trying to change minds, just expressing my opinion. I am aware of the cost of guns, a normal gun should cost around 300 dollars. So, for those of you spending more than that, that's your business and your responsibility.

My family still has the double-barrel shotgun used by my great-great grandfather that he used to shoot ducks in Long Island sound during the 1880's. He lived in a log cabin in the town of Babylon. He didn't need a shotgun that can discharge rounds faster than the ducks could drop from the sky.

Well that was his choice, there were many Duck hunting guns that discharged more and faster....just because he didn't have one is kinda moot, no?

Also in your Grandfathers time anyone looking to do harm or did harm was taken care of swiftly and permanently. Want to go back to the "simpler time" do you?

coalkirk · By: **coalkirk** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:28 pm

Why won't a gun ban work? Think how well the war on drugs has worked. Or prohibition?

Even when there was an assault weapons ban in this country, it was a joke. Anyone who knows anything about guns knows that. Just another feel good law. Want to make criminals out of millions of otherwise law abiding folks? Go ahead and try to ban and collect semi-auto rifles.

SuperBeetle · By: **SuperBeetle** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:38 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:First, I am fighting a losing gun battle here and I know it. I'm not trying to change minds, just expressing my opinion. I am aware of the cost of guns, a normal gun should cost around 300 dollars. So, for those of you spending more than that, that's your business and your responsibility.

My family still has the double-barrel shotgun used by my great-great grandfather to shoot ducks in Long Island sound during the 1880's. He lived in a log cabin in the town of Babylon. He didn't need a shotgun that can discharge rounds faster than the ducks could drop from the sky.

Define "normal gun" please. They used punt guns back then too.

Flyer5 · By: **Flyer5** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:49 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:First, I am fighting a losing gun battle here and I know it. I'm not trying to change minds, just expressing my opinion. I am aware of the cost of guns, a normal gun should cost around 300 dollars. So, for those of you spending more than that, that's your business and your responsibility.

My family still has the double-barrel shotgun used by my great-great grandfather to shoot ducks in Long Island sound during the 1880's. He lived in a log cabin in the town of Babylon. He didn't need a shotgun that can discharge rounds faster than the ducks could drop from the sky.

You are entitled to your opinion and I do respect it . The same as I expect my opinion to be respected. I don't feel gun owners of any type should be treated like there is something not right in the mind. I find shooting a target at 400 or 600yds relaxing and a mental and physical challenge. If I can send multiple rounds out quickly makes it more of a challenge. I hope to never ever have the need to fire my weapon and anyone. I just refuse to be an unarmed victim. My choice.

SuperBeetle · By: **SuperBeetle** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:52 pm

Flyer5 wrote: I hope to never ever have the need to fire my weapon and anyone. I just refuse to be an unarmed victim. My choice.

+1

EarthWindandFire · By: **EarthWindandFire** On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:26 pm

Sergeant Alvin York was a better shot than anyone here on this board most likely, all he needed on October 8th 1918 was his M1917 Enfield Rifle and 45. Colt Pistol. With those two guns, York captured 32 German machine guns, killed 28 German soldiers and captured another 132 German soldiers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Enfield

None of you need, or should be allowed to have, any gun with superior firepower than the two guns used by Sergeant York, a true American hero.

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