Connecticut Shooting

Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:39 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:None of you need, or should be allowed to have, any gun with superior firepower than the two guns used by Sergeant York, a true American hero.


The American people need enough firepower to keep their government in check. That's what the 2A is about and it is dangerous if not down right suicidal to suggest otherwise.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:03 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:Sergeant Alvin York was a better shot than anyone here on this board most likely, all he needed on October 8th 1918 was his M1917 Enfield Rifle and 45. Colt Pistol. With those two guns, York captured 32 German machine guns, killed 28 German soldiers and captured another 132 German soldiers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Enfield

None of you need, or should be allowed to have, any gun with superior firepower than the two guns used by Sergeant York, a true American hero.



I also can wash clothes by hand but choose to use a washing machine instead. I have no ambitions of going after anyone with my guns. I find enjoyment in practicing and firing them at inanimate objects and the occasional woodchuck that decides to dig in my pasture. Already lost 1 horse to a chuck hole. Again I respect your decision to not own a gun. Again the great thing about this country is everyone has a right to their opinion. But how would you feel if I didn't feel you should own a car over 30hp and 800lbs. Both firearms and vehicles have been used to slaughter masses of people intentionally. But you have to look at the common denominator in the situations. There was a psyco behind and guiding both.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:14 pm

Dave,

I am a big proponent of guns, every man and woman in America should own one and practice using them. However, a Bushmaster 223 (AR-15 type) gun is unnecessary by any measure. What you do with your AR-15 could be accomplished with a simple Marlin 336 for example, no need to remove stumps with nuclear weapons when a stump grinder will work.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:15 pm

jpete wrote:
EarthWindandFire wrote:None of you need, or should be allowed to have, any gun with superior firepower than the two guns used by Sergeant York, a true American hero.


The American people need enough firepower to keep their government in check. That's what the 2A is about and it is dangerous if not down right suicidal to suggest otherwise.



I personally don't believe that is a valid statement anymore, we are way outgunned. My reasons for owning guns are totally different. I had an incident that I would rather not share on an open forum but me and my daughter are safe because I had my pistol on my person, no shots fired. Just changed someones probable intentions. I do feel having a large magazine may come in handy someday if needed in a complete disaster situation where mobs rule. I do not consider myself to be a prepper in any sense. But I do feel I will be prepared. And so will my neighbors.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:22 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

I am a big proponent of guns, every man and woman in America should own one and practice using them. However, a Bushmaster 223 (AR-15 type) gun is unnecessary by any measure. What you do with your AR-15 could be accomplished with a simple Marlin 336 for example, no need to remove stumps with nuclear weapons when a stump grinder will work.

I think you'd change your mind on that after the economy collapses, and all those gangs we read about in the city start wandering into the suburbs looking for things that will be all used up in the cities. I don't know about you, but faced with a gang of 10 .... 30 .... 80 thugs threatening my neighborhood, I'd rather have a 30 round magazine than a 10.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:23 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

I am a big proponent of guns, every man and woman in America should own one and practice using them. However, a Bushmaster 223 (AR-15 type) gun is unnecessary by any measure. What you do with your AR-15 could be accomplished with a simple Marlin 336 for example, no need to remove stumps with nuclear weapons when a stump grinder will work.


You are welcome anytime if you would like to shoot mine. Then you can decide. I felt the same way a few yrs ago till I got to shoot a friends .223 AR. And a 50 cal. You can find destruction or enjoyment in a lot of things in the world today, just depends on the use. Me, I enjoy life and respect other peoples lives. I have values and morals instilled in me. That is the difference between me and some nutcase with the same car or gun. I know the difference between right and wrong.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:24 pm

SMITTY wrote:
EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

I am a big proponent of guns, every man and woman in America should own one and practice using them. However, a Bushmaster 223 (AR-15 type) gun is unnecessary by any measure. What you do with your AR-15 could be accomplished with a simple Marlin 336 for example, no need to remove stumps with nuclear weapons when a stump grinder will work.

I think you'd change your mind on that after the economy collapses, and all those gangs we read about in the city start wandering into the suburbs looking for things that will be all used up in the cities. I don't know about you, but faced with a gang of 10 .... 30 .... 80 thugs threatening my neighborhood, I'd rather have a 30 round magazine than a 10.


YEP!! I don't really expect it to happen in my lifetime but you never know. I also have never had a car accident except for a deer but I do keep full coverage auto ins.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:37 pm

10 or 100 thugs coming in to my area wouldn't make much difference, we could all use single shot weapons & if lucky maybe one or to that are the fleetest of foot might, just might make it out, it ain't so much how many rounds but the placement that counts. As for the Gov. think about it, you could never out gun them & which one would you stop at if you could.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:02 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

I am a big proponent of guns, every man and woman in America should own one and practice using them. However, a Bushmaster 223 (AR-15 type) gun is unnecessary by any measure. What you do with your AR-15 could be accomplished with a simple Marlin 336 for example, no need to remove stumps with nuclear weapons when a stump grinder will work.




BTW a .223 is nothing more than a .22 round . A little faster but still just a .22 projectile. A 336 / 30.06 will do a lot more damage and even more likely fatal if hit just once.
These children didn't have a chance because of the situation. Don't get me wrong like I said if I thought for a second that a ban on so called assault weapons would make any difference I would not have an issue with a new ban. But reality has proven it won't. I would like to see them look into the real problem / cause so it can be stopped instead of wasting time on a weapons ban that won't fix or solve the problem. I cried on the way home on Friday thinking of how defenseless everyone of those children were and not even the adults there to protect them could do anything. Especially when they read of the name Emily . I have a 5yr old in school named Emily. I would feel better if they let a select few adults in a school carry concealed. Laws do nothing to stop a criminal. Banning a certain type of weapon is a waste of time.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:24 pm

Dave,

What would the American Civil War have looked like if the soldiers were equipped with repeating rifles instead of muzzle loaders? Well, I can tell you that many more men would have died than the 620,000 that did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifles_in_the_American_Civil_War
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:33 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

What would the American Civil War have looked like if the soldiers were equipped with repeating rifles instead of muzzle loaders? Well, I can tell you that many more men would have died than the 620,000 that did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifles_in_the_American_Civil_War



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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:47 pm

I don't think in what ifs. I do think in possibilities reality and today.


That's exactly the problem Dave, I couldn't have said it any better!
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:49 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:
I don't think in what ifs. I do think in possibilities reality and today.


That's exactly the problem Dave, I couldn't have said it any better!



Not sure I understand your reply? They didn't and you cant change it.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:48 pm

Flyer5 wrote: I also can wash clothes by hand but choose to use a washing machine instead.


Is business partner aware you equated his gun to hand washing clothes? :P
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