Connecticut Shooting

Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:56 pm

Richard S. wrote:
Flyer5 wrote: I also can wash clothes by hand but choose to use a washing machine instead.


Is business partner aware you equated his gun to hand washing clothes? :P





You can be an ass sometimes. LOL :rofl: You almost hurt my feeling.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:56 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

What would the American Civil War have looked like if the soldiers were equipped with repeating rifles instead of muzzle loaders? Well, I can tell you that many more men would have died than the 620,000 that did.


That's a big assumption because you're assuming that the same amount of war would have been waged. The Souths lost because they lost, the more likely scenario is the war would have been shortened.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:00 pm

Richard S. wrote:
EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

What would the American Civil War have looked like if the soldiers were equipped with repeating rifles instead of muzzle loaders? Well, I can tell you that many more men would have died than the 620,000 that did.


That's a big assumption because you're assuming that the same amount of war would have been waged. The Souths lost because they lost, the more likely scenario is the war would have been shortened.


No question the war would have been shorter if one side had semi-auto rifles. Probably years shorter.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:05 pm

Richard S. wrote:
EarthWindandFire wrote:Dave,

What would the American Civil War have looked like if the soldiers were equipped with repeating rifles instead of muzzle loaders? Well, I can tell you that many more men would have died than the 620,000 that did.


That's a big assumption because you're assuming that the same amount of war would have been waged. The Souths lost because they lost, the more likely scenario is the war would have been shortened.



That was my point. I will never know . I have to go and wring out my clothes and hang em on the line.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:17 pm

Flyer5 wrote: You can be an ass sometimes. LOL :rofl: You almost hurt my feeling.


Yes I can, now that I looked it's wrong gun. :lol:
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:21 pm

I read something recently about the effectiveness of full/semi-auto. Something like only one bullet found its mark for every 250,000 fired in Vietnam. That is because they were used for suppressive fire. Maybe some vets in here can elaborate. Even back in WWII they recognized that machine guns were not effective at hitting things. They went to selective and burst fire to increase accuracy with full auto for shock and awe(suppression). There was debate at the highest levels about using the Garand over the bolt actions. I use the M-4 and M-16 variants in my "violent" games, they are best used on selective fire and other machine guns are best used in quick bursts. That mirrors real life. For those that have actually fired these weapons, the ease of pointing and the return to target are the biggest pluses. The cartridges are lackluster at best compared to hunting rifles. They are not some self pointing ultra high power killing machines.
In the case of how he utilized the gun, in a room full of children, it maximized the potential of the weapon. I and many of you could have done the same thing with the handguns he carried. If we were properly wacked or drugged or take your pick. We still have not seen a really proficient trained killer go off and do this. The body count will astound when it happens.

Kevin

Tim McVeigh was the last proficient one and he used a bomb. ;)
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:34 pm

KLook wrote:. We still have not seen a really proficient trained killer go off and do this. The body count will astound when it happens.

Kevin

Tim McVeigh was the last proficient one and he used a bomb. ;)



That's one I hope we never see. I hope we never see something like this again either. I hope the politicians get smart and put at least a vaccine in place while they look to fix the real problem. I guess that's what bothers me more about this whole anti assault rifle thing. Honestly I really could go without shooting another one. But I shouldn't have to and people should not be in places that they cannot be protected by equal force. They the nuts running the asylum need to spend the time fixing the real problem and not getting distracted by things that will not help.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: grumpy On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:42 pm

County Police Chief Recommends Arming School Personnel

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2012/12/17/ ... personnel/
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:35 pm

Some more insight. Click on the podcast. It is long but very informative on how this can happen.

http://www.seraph.net/2012/12/18/interv ... k-tragedy/
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: Rwalker On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:49 pm

South Butler School District in PA now have armed retired State Troopers roaming the hallways. http://triblive.com/neighborhoods/youra ... z2FRzOhWok
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: beemerboy On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:22 pm

Do you really want more guns in schools?

Utah sixth grader placed .22-caliber handgun to classmate’s head after 'encouraged by his PARENTS to carry a gun after Sandy Hook’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2FRVkpPZr

....Police say an 11-year-old boy pulled a .22-caliber handgun on an elementary school classmate on Monday after his parents allegedly encouraged him to carry it for protection after last week's shooting in Connecticut..
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:23 pm

beemerboy wrote:Do you really want more guns in schools?

Utah sixth grader placed .22-caliber handgun to classmate’s head after 'encouraged by his PARENTS to carry a gun after Sandy Hook’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2FRVkpPZr

....Police say an 11-year-old boy pulled a .22-caliber handgun on an elementary school classmate on Monday after his parents allegedly encouraged him to carry it for protection after last week's shooting in Connecticut..


I bet the kid that had a gun to his head wished he had one.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:13 pm

What I want to know is ... how is an 11 year old kid able to carry a HAND gun (when the legal FEDERAL age to own one is 18 .... 21 if buying new at dealer) to start with ... then carry one into a GUN FREE zone???

2 laws broken right there that did NOTHING .... AGAIN. :roll:
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: homecomfort On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:41 pm

even gun enthusiasts are joining the push back, for now, against assault type weapons . if the deaths of the children lead to stricter assault weapon laws, at least those parents and family members could hold some comfort and closure, knowing that their loss, may hopefully limit the suffering to others in the future. Now for the parents of the children shot to death by the 2 handguns that were also used in the latest massacre, well too bad for you all, nothing will change. your nra dues are financing the devils work. sleep well members.
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Re: Connecticut Shooting

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:54 pm

Thanks for reminding me...I've been meaning to join the NRA.
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