The Media has Gone Too Far

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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: Cap On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:11 pm

Honestly? I find it strange to be shut out and away from TV for any length of time. Just my way of life. I find it relaxing after work all day.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:22 pm

You & me both cap. After awhile ya can get pretty good at sorting out the media nonsense. As far as the shows, I'll claim about 1/2 dozen that I enjoy watching each week.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:16 pm

SMITTY wrote:Steve - your a piece of work, you know that?

You type Fox News with the smarmy liberal term "Faux" as if all the OTHER stations are any better! IF anything, they're 20x WORSE. They have a DUTY to report the news, yet details on Bengazi, Obama's childhood, democrat tax dodgers, etc etc etc etc ..... all go unreported.

Fox is part of the mainstream media, but you libs need to realize that ALL the mainstream media has an AGENDA that comes FIRST. News comes second today.

Naw Smitty, I wasn't picking on them in particular (although they make it easy with some of thier talking heads). Jeff was on about MSM who in thier own way is just a bad as Fox on the other side of the line. I totally agree with you that they all have their agenda's. All of Rupert Murdocks stations and newpapers are slanted the way he wants them. Personally I don't think one man should control so much of the worlds media, but that's the way it is.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:20 pm

internet only cable here.
no telephone line
no mail box po box only
no bullshit calls,mail,or infomercials
8-)

been there done that....
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:09 pm

SteveZee wrote:Jeff was on about MSM.


MSM="Main Stream Media"

That includes Fox.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:19 am

jpete wrote:
SteveZee wrote:Jeff was on about MSM.


MSM="Main Stream Media"

That includes Fox.

Yep just noticed that, My dislexia was looking at MSN ;) I'm in agreement that most do have an agenda and finding unbiased reporting gets difficult when operating for profit that is generated through advertising.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:33 am

freetown fred wrote:You & me both cap. After awhile ya can get pretty good at sorting out the media nonsense. As far as the shows, I'll claim about 1/2 dozen that I enjoy watching each week.

As a society though, we are so used to it now that it does seem odd without it. My Grandpa had one of the first on their street. He won it in a contest. It actually had a mirror that reflected the picture from the base. The whole street would gather round for a look. Before that it was radio and before that, books, stories, music (played by people) theatre, ect... Funny it's not been that long ago maybe 75 years or so. Seems like forever because it was through our generation made even easier by the net now. Amazing but I wonder if it has helped or hindered in the long run? Easy to brainwash whole nations as we've seen. Who knows? My brother has a cabin on the sea coast and he's a writer and has not had a television for about 5 years now. I know this. It gets mighty quiet when the power goes out around my house! :shock:
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:12 am

SZ, I think where society as a whole has screwed up big time is as far as the electronic/tv area goes--seems like every kid in the USA has their own tv in their room, x-boxes or what ever the hell those things are that way to many parents use as baby sitters, time fillers, etc. Even when all 5 of my kids were here, we had 1 tv in the living room with time limits on the kids use, same with the computer, games, etc. I knew what these kids were doing 24/7--we talked, we ate together at the kitchen table, we did barn chores together, I attended all their school activities no matter what. I knew what was going on with them at all times & again, we would talk things out. Momma was different, she thought she always had to be their best buddy. Yet today, I'm the one they call with problems and good things. Really pisses their Mom off, but it is what it is. For the record, all these kids had their own target 22 rifle by the time they were 8 or so.They understood the safety issues & never touched them unless I was there or knew exactly what/where they were doing/going. I know things are different out here, but the bottom line is parental involvement, also involves trusting the kids which is an earned thing. That tv thing was only about 65 yrs ago Steve, crap, don't make me feel older then I already do ;) Rw keeps saying it--this stuff all starts in the home.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:30 am

Mark me up as another home that does not have TV.

Well we have TV, we just do not have satellite or cable and have no way to get the new digital service for local stations. We do that because we have 3 daughters, ages 5,6 and 8 and we want to limit what they watch. We have DVD's, but Veggie Tales is much better then anything on the evening news.

I realize there is no way to control everything the kids see, but until we got a foster child that had been raped by her father, we did not realize how much rape and sexual activity is broadcast on programs as benign as the evening news.

A few months ago my wife and I bought a DVD that we could watch; a dvd of 20 minute tv shows. There was 12 of them, and it took 3 months to watch all of them! We just do not watch TV. I will admit that I would be the perfect juror. A few years ago they said there was an oil spill in the gulf by BP, but I thought it was something minor. It was 5 weeks before I realized the depth of the spill. Same with this; it was Saturday before I heard about the shooting.

It has been proven that your brain has more activity sleeping then it does watching TV. Me, I relax by just talking about burning coal. :D
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:50 am

NoSmoke wrote:Mark me up as another home that does not have TV.

Well we have TV, we just do not have satellite or cable and have no way to get the new digital service for local stations. We do that because we have 3 daughters, ages 5,6 and 8 and we want to limit what they watch. We have DVD's, but Veggie Tales is much better then anything on the evening news.

I realize there is no way to control everything the kids see, but until we got a foster child that had been raped by her father, we did not realize how much rape and sexual activity is broadcast on programs as benign as the evening news.

A few months ago my wife and I bought a DVD that we could watch; a dvd of 20 minute tv shows. There was 12 of them, and it took 3 months to watch all of them! We just do not watch TV. I will admit that I would be the perfect juror. A few years ago they said there was an oil spill in the gulf by BP, but I thought it was something minor. It was 5 weeks before I realized the depth of the spill. Same with this; it was Saturday before I heard about the shooting.

It has been proven that your brain has more activity sleeping then it does watching TV. Me, I relax by just talking about burning coal. :D


That's funny NS, My brother is the same way. Whenever I see him and start to talk about some event or news item he never knows what I'm talking about. He'll laugh and say enough people know already or some other quip. He would have prefered to have lived in an earlier are for sure. As a writer, he finds his mind works best in his solitude where mine seems to do better with a little chaos mixed in. :P
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:09 am

Everyone has a right to choose what they do life style wise. My personal thoughts are & I'll bring up 2 things--no tv & home schooling--I wonder how good it is to insulate our kids from the real world, as screwed up as it can be sometimes. Ex: there are two families on the hill here that home school & I have never seen such ineptness in their kids dealing with the social environment that comes with their participation in outside activities. With the tv, I think that if a parent takes the time to do it with their kids & talk about what they are watching, things seem to be more reality oriented. On the hill here, if an emergency situation arises, we really depend on tv/radio for informing us. Yes, if people let their kids just sit in front of the tube hr after hr with no supervision, I agree, that's a big problem.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:19 am

As far as the home schooling goes, I know a few people that were educated (if you want to call it that) that way. None of them have any social skills what so ever and they really don't seem to cope all that well in day to day situations. They never seem to go out and mingle with other people and like to be inside on the computer or watch the TV. Just sayin'.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:27 am

freetown fred wrote:Everyone has a right to choose what they do life style wise. My personal thoughts are & I'll bring up 2 things--no tv & home schooling--I wonder how good it is to insulate our kids from the real world, as screwed up as it can be sometimes. Ex: there are two families on the hill here that home school & I have never seen such ineptness in their kids dealing with the social environment that comes with their participation in outside activities. With the tv, I think that if a parent takes the time to do it with their kids & talk about what they are watching, things seem to be more reality oriented. On the hill here, if an emergency situation arises, we really depend on tv/radio for informing us. Yes, if people let their kids just sit in front of the tube hr after hr with no supervision, I agree, that's a big problem.


Those are both excellent talking points Fred. I think that it could go either way and sometimes does. Certainly the social skills that come from a public education are vital for a young person that will work or interact with their peers. On the other hand, many times, that is also where they can go astray. They might be introduced to the myriad of drugs or alcohol or whatever else is "out there". Probably allot of the home schooling became popular (again) because of this and/or religious views or maybe just because one felt like the school system wasn't high quality enough and sometimes it's not. It's very individual I would suppose but I know that I wouldn't have missed my school years for the world! That's where the good looking chica's were. ;) That and I played in a R&R band and we got allot of the local gigs for proms and dances. You can see where my priorites were. ;)

Still and all I wonder what life might have been like had we never had TV or even radio? It's hard to fathom for me but must have been different for sure and cause for people to create allot more of their own entertainment.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:37 am

That was one of my favorite lines I used on the kids--" my role in life is not to keep you guys entertained 24 hrs a day, now get your ass's outside & find something to do before I find something for you" ironicly, they became very creative. ;) SZ, I'm totally convinced that I was born 100 yrs later then I would've chosen.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: Dann757 On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:40 am

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