The Media has Gone Too Far

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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:21 am

The phrase "a hill to die on" is used to refer to an issue or belief held to be so important that it is worth fighting for, at all costs. The figure of speech has its basis in military strategy referring to a literal hill on which a strategic battle is fought.


[/quote]So, I'll ask again, should he die on the hill of defending that which he believes works or move along to someplace more in line with his beliefs?

I thought you were a military man who would understand the reference....[/quote]

I'll let you answer that Jeff, with what you told me on a similar scenerio when one doesn't agree with a situation.

"Sort of like Jefferson, Washington and Adams did?

I remember well the stories where they voted to make changes and then moved to Canada when that didn't work"
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:27 am

SteveZee wrote:
jpete wrote:
freetown fred wrote:The reason I didn't answer, was I saw no reference to ANY hill????


The phrase "a hill to die on" is used to refer to an issue or belief held to be so important that it is worth fighting for, at all costs. The figure of speech has its basis in military strategy referring to a literal hill on which a strategic battle is fought.


So, I'll ask again, should he die on the hill of defending that which he believes works or move along to someplace more in line with his beliefs?

I thought you were a military man who would understand the reference....


I'll let you answer that Jeff, with what you told me on a similar scenerio when one doesn't agree with a situation.
"Sort of like Jefferson, Washington and Adams did?

I remember well the stories where they voted to make changes and then moved to Canada when that didn't work" ;)

Jpete's answer will save us all..we await our savior! :roll: :P
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:08 am

I can't believe that Jpete made the statement that he thought anyone with 15 years in the trenches might somehow know more than him. Then again he did say might so I guess that leaves room for him being a legend in his own mind.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:00 pm

samhill wrote:I can't believe that Jpete made the statement that he thought anyone with 15 years in the trenches might somehow know more than him.


Unfortunately, you and NM can't say the same.

No one knows more than you guys. Must be why I piss you off so much.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:04 pm

Whatever you say Jpete, you know you are right. :roll:
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:25 pm

I think you take way to much for granted as far as your pissing people off :P
jpete wrote:
samhill wrote:I can't believe that Jpete made the statement that he thought anyone with 15 years in the trenches might somehow know more than him.


Unfortunately, you and NM can't say the same.

No one knows more than you guys. Must be why I piss you off so much.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:47 pm

freetown fred wrote:I think you take way to much for granted as far as your pissing people off :P ]


You still haven't answered the question.

In your opinion, should this teacher have spent the rest of his career watching kids fail when he believed he could have helped them even if his methods were "outside the lines"?
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:20 pm

If you would read my posts, you would know that I answered that question a few times, granted, nothing seems to sink in unless it is the specific answer you want to hear.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:28 pm

jpete wrote:
samhill wrote:I can't believe that Jpete made the statement that he thought anyone with 15 years in the trenches might somehow know more than him.


Unfortunately, you and NM can't say the same.

No one knows more than you guys. Must be why I piss you off so much.


I'm sooo upset! :roll: :P
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:31 pm

freetown fred wrote:If you would read my posts, you would know that I answered that question a few times, granted, nothing seems to sink in unless it is the specific answer you want to hear.


Jpete can only take an answer that he has conjured up! Let it be known that HE is our answer to the unknown! :doh: :rofl:
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:16 pm

freetown fred wrote:If you would read my posts, you would know that I answered that question a few times, granted, nothing seems to sink in unless it is the specific answer you want to hear.


So the best I can make heads or tails of your insane ramblings is that anyone who leaves a situation in which they feel is contrary to their philosophy to move onto a better situation is a "quitter" and a "drama queen".

I'm sure glad you weren't at the Continental Congress, we'd still be British. :)
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:32 pm

You forgot to mention my using whiner in there somewhere also. ;)
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:41 pm

freetown fred wrote:You forgot to mention my using whiner in there somewhere also. ;)


I picture you sitting in the same place, wearing the same clothes, and doing the same thing year after year.

I don't know how you do it. I've changed so much, I barely recognize myself. :D
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:12 pm

Ya see, when you serve your Country & then work till your 65, raise your kids,etc--- you get to collect your pension if you've got one, plus your Soc. Sec. that you've paid into all your working life, you can do whatever you want.
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Re: The Media has Gone Too Far

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:16 pm

Fair enough.

I concede your right to be wrong. :D
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