fire burnes out

fire burnes out

PostBy: chuckraes On: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:11 pm

I have an efm af150,rice burner.i got a fresh load of coal,started the burner,had a good fire and it went out.no biggie. I started over, watched it, lookin good and started the feed. it seems to burn around the outside and fresh unburned coal pushes up, but doesnt burn.I cleaned the pot, unplugged a few holes started fresh and that keeps happening.whats wrong? I had the feed at 2 clicks, air on 3 tried pushing the air up to 4, nothing I do is working and i'm getting frustrated.pleeeease help.
chuckraes
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: af 150

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:43 pm

Welcome to the forum. Was your EFM running fine before this load of coal?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:51 pm

Look up from underneath your burn pot and see if the fines cleanout is closed.
Scottscoaled
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x3, 700 Van Wert 800
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:50 am

Chuck

Where are you located ???


Perhaps someone is local to you and come by and brainstorm to resolve this issue................



Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: stoker-man On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:43 am

Just worked on one with a similar problem. Turned out it was the fan housing. The area around the inside surface of the fan housing was filled with fine house dust. Cleaned out the dust and it runs like new. The owner had been having problems, but it reached a point suddenly where it wouldn't even keep kindling wood mixed with coal burning.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: chuckraes On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:23 am

ya it worked great last year.i'm going to take the fan assy. apart today and see what i come up with.there seems to be a lot of fines when it gets to the pot,could that be a problem?
chuckraes
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: af 150

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: chuckraes On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:26 am

i'm in lyons,ny(near rochester) the fines cleanout is closed.
chuckraes
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: af 150

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:00 am

If your coal has a lot of fines, it will require additional air to get a proper burn pattern. It could be as simple as your new load of coal requires more air. But as long as you are troubleshooting....make sure that your auger & pipes are in good shape, and not grinding the coal. You should have 2-4 flights of auger sticking out of the pipe, and the pipes must fit tightly together in the coupler (no gaps). See if the auger flights in the pot are sharp...if so, the auger & pot bushing may need to be replaced.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:31 am

Chuck,

I'll be headed to Lyons later today. Probably around 2 or 3. Headed to the range, would be glad to try and help.
k9 Bara
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM
Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: chuckraes On: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:35 pm

that would be great,give me a call-3158797779
chuckraes
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: af 150

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:57 am

How did you make out? Sorry, work was busy. How did the burn go after I left? Losing air somewhere, I think a grate.
k9 Bara
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM
Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: chuckraes On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:02 am

it worked great.the fire was good,flames up where they should be.i'm going to try to figure out where the air is leaking.thanks for helping.
chuckraes
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: af 150

Re: fire burnes out

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:44 am

Glad to hear it.
k9 Bara
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM
Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite