Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:38 pm

We can argue all day whether or not guns are at fault.
Lets keep this to what can we do today to protect our kids. And I mean. What systems are there, but not being enforced? Such as walk around s every 15 0r 20 minutes.
Are the schools doing everything they can ? Lets look at the forest through the trees for a change.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:56 pm

Thats a good question, I don't know. We could start by not misleading the public, Morgan just said on cnn that the AR15 is a military machine gun. That is an outright lie. :mad:
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: theo On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:00 pm

Alot of schooling starts right at home,,,, parents need to be with and teach there kids more nowadays.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:10 pm

What can we do today to get our schools to do there part. What rules are there and not being followed? What should be done immediately? What can we do to get the gun free zones to be responsible? If they won't let us protect ourselves or our kids they should be made responsible and accountable for the task? What can they do and besides not entering a gun free area what can we do?
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:20 pm

I have a card, You have disarmed me, you are now responsible for my safety, If any harm comes to me or my party you will be sued.

Disarming innocent citizens does not protect innocent citizens, the yet unlearned lesson of 911.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:22 pm

Flyer5 wrote:What can we do today to get our schools to do there part. What rules are there and not being followed? What should be done immediately? What can we do to get the gun free zones to be responsible? If they won't let us protect ourselves or our kids they should be made responsible and accountable for the task? What can they do and besides not entering a gun free area what can we do?



The schools have done little in addressing this threat, they are however happy to let the cops come in and raid the school unannounced looking for drugs.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: Cap On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:26 pm

Today, I am driving on Rt 81. State Trooper guarding at best 6 workers in a construction zone. But we 0 troopers guarding our schools from intruders of any type. One trained law enforcement officer stops Friday's massacre maybe to the extent the killer never approaches the school. Coward anyway.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:31 pm

Its time THIS violence is fought with violence, let it be known if your plan is to come into the school to kill and go out in a glory you will likely die first. I have had it with this, cnn just said people are trying to profit from this event, really? What are they doing..
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:39 pm

I assume all you guys have/are attending the school board meetings that every school district in the good old USA have? You gotta make noise to get results. When my kids were in school, they had a State Trooper there on campus--Community relations Officer or something like that. I always saw a squad car parked right in front of the school--I don't believe I have over the past couple years. If I still had kids in school here, I'd be all over it like flys on a *censored* stick--what's that?? you're to busy. Get UNBUSY---TOMORROW!!! And stop with the anti or pro gun bullshit--get back to the here & now for the kids--my guns aren't going anywhere!
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:40 pm

Does that fall in the category of "whining" or "drama queen"?
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:44 pm

freetown fred wrote:I assume all you guys have/are attending the school board meetings that every school district in the good old USA have? You gotta make noise to get results. When my kids were in school, they had a State Trooper there on campus--Community relations Officer or something like that. I always saw a squad car parked right in front of the school--I don't believe I have over the past couple years. If I still had kids in school here, I'd be all over it like flys on a *censored* stick--what's that?? you're to busy. Get UNBUSY---TOMORROW



Hey, I did what I could, I wrote the principle of my kids school, and said what are you doing. I told him as a parent I would fully support concealed carry by faculty and staff.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:45 pm

New topic jpete--get your head out of your ass & let people discuss it.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:56 pm

freetown fred wrote:New topic jpete--get your head out of your ass & let people discuss it.


I'm just trying not to step outside your self imposed guidelines.

I'd hate to be called a "quitter" for suggesting something other than what you approve of.

The answer is, "Let people defend themselves."

There is no perfect security. One cop at a school isn't going to do jack. If someone were bound and determined, they'd take him out first. And that doesn't even get into the reality of the cost of outfitting every school with cops, bullet proof glass, metal detectors and fences.

You might as well just send your kid to prison because that's what you are building.

Or you can let those that want and can handle the responsibility to carry a gun do so. It's as secure as we'll get and no cost to the taxpayer.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:59 pm

jpete wrote:Does that fall in the category of "whining" or "drama queen"?


Lets keep the personal issues out and come up with solutions please. I am serious on this I don't have the attitude that it would never happen at my kids school. I am looking for things I can go to my kids school and inquire about.
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Re: Besides gun laws, what can be done to actually prevent

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:32 pm

The most important thing is how do visitors enter and exit the building? I mentioned it in the other thread when I went to go pick my niece up you entered an unlocked door into a foyer. From their they had this big formidable door you had to be buzzed in...... the only problem is while I'm standing there waiting in this foyer two people went in and out of the door so if wanted in I was in...

What they need is an exit with two doors that cannot be opened from the outside. You go through one door and that door closes behind you and then you go out the next door. The entrance should have two doors locked doors too.

I'll tell you something else, they need to do the same thing at these pre schools/day cares. I had forgotten about this but I was up in Dallas and hit a parked car in the parking lot........ yea that's sad but I had an excuse because there was a giant box in my back seat and I was in a hurry. In any event being the nice guy I am I went in search of the owner and they were at this day care. I went through the first set of unlocked doors and had to ring the bell. One of the peopl working there walked right by the littel area they had to converse with me and right over to the door and opened it... The first thing that went through my mind was that wasn't very smart. What's the point of having a set up like that if you're just going to open the damn door? I almost said something too her...

Certainly I would find out what their procedures are for handling visitors.
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