It never pays to do things when you're....

Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:45 am

I'm absolutely exhausted too. Every single morning without fail I have to load my AnthraKing AK 110 hopper with about 4 buckets of coal and on a bad day that can take as much as 40 seconds. As if that was not enough I have to bend over and open the ash door and change the pan at least every other day - another 30 seconds taken from my life I can never get back. All this while wondering if the coffee is ready yet. I just can't take this pressure for ever, I'm starting to crack. My wife tells me no one likes a wise a$$. What does she mean by that? Damn, my book "Hydronics for fools" slammed shut, I think I was on page 700 or so, I forget. Don't you hate it when that happens? Guess I will have to start again, just as well the author lost me on page 2.
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:55 am

freetown fred wrote:"You know all the nuance of your stove and chimneys." -----And that's the most important part of this whole coal burning venture!! ;) Tired don't come close to cuttin it!

Yep Fred, those nuances feel like lending your scoot to somone. They come over to watch the old place while I'm on the road and you start to explain how to run the stoves. :? Then finally just show them the oil furnace thermostat :lol: . It's not rocket science I know but my house has been standing on this spot for 226 years without burning to the ground also. Just feels like I'm the only one capable of running them properly. :D
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PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:14 am

Point being, I'm sure you're right SZ. Hey cn, now I know why you're always up so EARLY--to get all that HARD work out of the way. PS--it sure saves money on books that way ;)
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:42 am

coalnewbie wrote:I'm absolutely exhausted too. Every single morning without fail I have to load my AnthraKing AK 110 hopper with about 4 buckets of coal and on a bad day that can take as much as 40 seconds. As if that was not enough I have to bend over and open the ash door and change the pan at least every other day - another 30 seconds taken from my life I can never get back. All this while wondering if the coffee is ready yet. I just can't take this pressure for ever, I'm starting to crack. My wife tells me no one likes a wise a$$. What does she mean by that? Damn, my book "Hydronics for fools" slammed shut, I think I was on page 700 or so, I forget. Don't you hate it when that happens? Guess I will have to start again, just as well the author lost me on page 2.


Life is not easy :lol:
Burning anth takes so much time :D
But it's :idea:
Have a nice and warm Christmas time
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:41 am

This is what I am dealing with. Quote from the wife. You seem to be tending the Jotul more often than the AnthraKing, is that because it has a smaller stomach?
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: MarkV On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:12 pm

Right before bed is when I empty the ashes from my Franco. I have an extra ash pan because I let the hot pan cool overnight, then dump the cooled ashes into a metal can with a plastic bag liner. Our trash company won't take the ashes unless bagged.

So my routine is, open ash door, remove full pan, set aside, insert empty pan, close and lock door.

Usually once a season, I do this when very tired. Then, the next night, I go to do the ashes, look down, and see two empty pans beside the stove, instead of one.

Yeah. I took out the full pan the night before, but forgot to put an empty one in, and just shut the ash door. And then proceeded to shake the stove two or three times the next day. :bang:
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PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:50 pm

I have left the house and driven a few miles, then turned around and drove back because I can't remember if I shut the ashpan door on the handfed. It was closed and latched every time. Now I tend the stove well before I leave, then check it before I leave...2 or 3 times. The boiler is a lot less work. :D
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:31 am

samhill wrote:I've already needed my morning cup of coffee so bad I put everything together except putting the pot underneath, it sure does smell good & strong but not fun to clean up when you still need that first cup.


ROFL... I've done that a lot and the worse part is you have to wait longer for that coffee. :mad:
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:40 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:I have left the house and driven a few miles, then turned around and drove back because I can't remember if I shut the ashpan door on the handfed........



Worse "forgot" for me was getting up at 5AM for this long planned winter camping trip, spending an hour in a vehicle, spending another 2 hours walking uphill through the woods in a foot of snow with a case of beer in my backpack (and that's not a joke) only too get to the spot to find out I left the tent poles sitting at home. :P
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:38 am

Richard S. wrote:
samhill wrote:I've already needed my morning cup of coffee so bad I put everything together except putting the pot underneath, it sure does smell good & strong but not fun to clean up when you still need that first cup.


ROFL... I've done that a lot and the worse part is you have to wait longer for that coffee. :mad:


Guilty as well. One time I forgot the pot, the other time it wasn't pushed in far enough to open the "sneak a cup" valve.
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:18 am

With all the "near miss" concerns of the "infamous" open ash pan door, has there ever been a "non-human" device, (or non-electrical), that's been manufactured, to warn of impending "doom"? I know Murphys law states "build a fool proof system, and only a "fool" will use it." But I'm wondering if flashing lites, or an irritating beeper might be somewhat beneficial. Then again, those ideas sound electrical, and don't think components such as those would survive the extreme heat conditions associated with a coal stove. And me personally am not a fan of excessive wiring running "amuck", if a mechanical solution is more feasible.
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PostBy: franco b On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:33 am

The best way is to never open the ash door except to empty the ash pan. With a thermostat the air is automatically adjusted.
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:12 pm

Joeq, don't know if your married or not but all I would have to do is tell my wife to never leave the door open & she would make sure that I never took so much as one step away before she would be yelling at me about closing it. :oops:
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: joeq On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:16 pm

samhill wrote:Joeq, don't know if your married or not but all I would have to do is tell my wife to never leave the door open & she would make sure that I never took so much as one step away before she would be yelling at me about closing it. :oops:


:P I "am", Sam and know where you're coming from. Unfortunately (fortunately?) she's not always there for the "reminder".
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Re: It never pays to do things when you're....

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:22 pm

joeq wrote:With all the "near miss" concerns of the "infamous" open ash pan door, has there ever been a "non-human" device, (or non-electrical), that's been manufactured, to warn of impending "doom"? I know Murphys law states "build a fool proof system, and only a "fool" will use it." But I'm wondering if flashing lites, or an irritating beeper might be somewhat beneficial. Then again, those ideas sound electrical, and don't think components such as those would survive the extreme heat conditions associated with a coal stove. And me personally am not a fan of excessive wiring running "amuck", if a mechanical solution is more feasible.





These use AAA batteries

Anyone remotely monitoring boiler temp, etc.
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