Gun control

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:33 am

Why! Smitty & a few others, does everything have to be those liberals or libtards or whatever else is used? It's not like the cons didn't have some say in it or that they never had the opportunity to change it & who knows if they had maybe it would still be back today. Every discussion has to have that crap thrown in there, just like this one do you all think that only cons own weapons & not libs (my God even a assault weapon or two & none have a CCL). Then talk about changing subjects that's also only a lib thing, many here are in a fantasy land where only libs have done evil & all cons wear white hats & do nothing but good.

SMITTY · By: **SMITTY** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:39 am

Last I checked, it's ALWAYS a liberal democrat screaming for gun control.

Nancy Pelosi ....... Barbera Boxer ..... Bloomberg ....... Piers Morgan .......

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:52 am

Don't feel like checking all the names but there has been quite a few cons in the Houses that have openly come out in favor of some control. I believe it's this weekend there is a gun show in Erie so I guess they will be selling like hotcakes to anyone with the bucks because they can without any checks. But answer me if you would, hasn't the Republican Party ever had the chance to reverse some of these things & has there never been a Republican that voted in favor of some? If the answer is yes then it's not just one side but I'll let my lib opinion be known once again, an assault weapon was designed for just that & besides a pecker extension to some male egos they ain't much good for anything else. There has been the fact that some are just little more than 22 rounds, if you get stabbed with a one inch pocket knife does it do the same damage as a ten inch blade of the same diameter & then even twisted around or broken into little pieces to go about their merry way?

SMITTY · By: **SMITTY** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:00 am

Every gun show I've ever gone to has done the EXACT SAME BACKGROUND CHECKS as if I had went to the gun store. Don't know what part of the planet allows guns to be purchased with no paper trail these days.

And just to clarify, Sam - those are REPUBLICANS - NOT conservatives! There's a big difference! IF they vote for ANY gun control, then they are a LIBERAL - Republican or not, a lib is a lib and will NOT get my vote!

A semi automatic weapon is a semi automatic weapon Sam. Look at the facts. The only reason there's talk of banning them is purely emotional - there is no science or basis in facts here. It's because they're "black and scaaaary!" and hold "a million bullets!" Classic fearmongering.

I'll tell you straight up what the use of them is: they are the only weapons that would give WE THE PEOPLE 1/10th of a chance fighting a tyrannical government in this day and age, and they know this! THIS is the REAL reason for all the buzz words in the media today.

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:12 am

Pay the price Smitty & you can get heavy machine guns & fully auto weapons. Gun shows in Pa. sell without checks, most auctions & estate sales do the same, it's a gray area I always had paper work filled to cover my butt & had two dealers that either did the sales with us or I would take the handguns to them after the sale & the buyer would go there. Even then after signing my paperwork & paying up front(non-refundable) some failed to show up to pick up their handgun because they knew they wouldn't pass the check. Even had one take me to a magistrate to get his money back & was arrested on outstanding warrants & these people walk the streets & have rights.
I don't want this to turn into anything personal so I'll leave it at that, you know my view & I yours, parts of the world have already made it to tomorrow so we'll still be around for another discussion.

SuperBeetle · By: **SuperBeetle** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:45 pm

SMITTY wrote:
Cocaine is illegal - look how that worked out. 5 minutes from here I could probably score a quarter ...

I could score a lot closer than that. Sad but true. The powers to be are aware and have been for over a year. What to do what to do???

Flyer5 · By: **Flyer5** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:25 pm

samhill wrote:Pay the price Smitty & you can get heavy machine guns & fully auto weapons. Gun shows in Pa. sell without checks, most auctions & estate sales do the same,

ALL FALSE!! You cannot buy fully auto weapons without a special license they are controlled by ATF and are federal. They do background checks at gun shows. I was at one just after the election. They had to call just for the lower receiver.
I never mind when you state your opinion I respect it. But statements should be true and fact not what you heard on the radio.

Flyer5 · By: **Flyer5** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:29 pm

samhill wrote:Don't feel like checking all the names but there has been quite a few cons in the Houses that have openly come out in favor of some control. I believe it's this weekend there is a gun show in Erie so I guess they will be selling like hotcakes to anyone with the bucks because they can without any checks. But answer me if you would, hasn't the Republican Party ever had the chance to reverse some of these things & has there never been a Republican that voted in favor of some? If the answer is yes then it's not just one side but I'll let my lib opinion be known once again, an assault weapon was designed for just that & besides a pecker extension to some male egos they ain't much good for anything else. There has been the fact that some are just little more than 22 rounds, if you get stabbed with a one inch pocket knife does it do the same damage as a ten inch blade of the same diameter & then even twisted around or broken into little pieces to go about their merry way?

I disagree i hasn't made my pecker any bigger!! :rofl:

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:44 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_shows_ ... ted_States
I said if you pay the price you can buy fully auto weapons, assuming that you are a legally allowed to own a gun then all it takes is money & getting all the red tape done. One of the gun dealers I use went that route simply because with the amount of buys he was making it was cheaper to become a dealer so he went all the way & can buy & sell full auto as well as many other things, all legal but the buyer also has to pass all the checks.
All tru Flyer, it's truu it's truu.http://abcnews.go.com/WN/gun-show-looph ... d=10404727

GA cracker · By: **GA cracker** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:06 pm

Just listened to Mr. LaPierre's responce on NBC, his statement was sadly broken into three segments. Hell I'm thinking about sending the NRA some extra money. Listen to what he said about the fantasy video games. Kids are being babysat by this mindless trash. I have lots more to say about this but I may be preaching to the choir.
C.

grumpy · By: **grumpy** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:10 pm

The important part was we protect the money in banks , power plants ect but not the kids. So far the media has not addressed that.

freetown fred · By: **freetown fred** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:51 pm

I still thing that amidst all this smoke, we are avoiding the most important issue. Irresponsible parenting--X-boxes & TV's do NOT teach our kids what they need to know. We are responsible for that.

franco b · By: **franco b** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:46 pm

Fred is right and the solutions proposed are as solid as smoke.

Over the centuries the emotions of people have not changed.

What has changed is the individual view of the outside world triggering emotional responses that are destructive and that were once benign. The world now owes them something.

Flyer5 · By: **Flyer5** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:57 pm

freetown fred wrote:I still thing that amidst all this smoke, we are avoiding the most important issue. Irresponsible parenting--X-boxes & TV's do NOT teach our kids what they need to know. We are responsible for that.

There is most of the problem accountability and responsibility are no longer taught anymore. Lack of accountability is everywhere mostly in government. Which I feel has the most blame for the tragedy in Newtown, but no one wants to admit it. The laws do not allow schools to defend themselves and don't do anything in place to correct that. Boils down to our govt cares more about our money than our kids. When have you ever seen a armored car without armed guards and bullet proof glass. .

freetown fred · By: **freetown fred** On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:09 pm

I'll bet you teach that daughter even at 5 Dave. As for the schools--I've said it to many times before--it falls to each individual school district & the people there that are persistent enough to make sure things get done. How many here have personally contacted their school districts, in PERSON, to find some kind of satisfactory resolve.

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