Need a Tool

Need a Tool

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:10 am

I am looking for a mortising machine that mounts on a door and cuts the pocket for the old style box lock. It has other uses and some also inlet the area for the strike or lock flange. I have seen one that uses your drill for power and it is available on Locksmith sites for $600. You can buy faceplates that match your lockser for about $175 a set to bore the handle and lock holes. There is a Porter Cable available for $1200 and you have to buy a $300 dollar accessory to inlet the flange. There is also another, a Virutex that cost $1200 and will inlet the flanges.

Question is, do any of you know where i might find one used. Maybe a good place to buy used tools? Something I can access online? I have searched the internet but havn't found much.

I have been asked to install 135 locksets in one house, 35 are exterior doors using the old(new) box type lock mortised into a pocket. Great opportunity with a company and I don't care if I break even, I want my foot in the door with these guys. These are all custom made doors from their shop.

Kevin
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Re: Need a Tool

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:17 am

Of course I was going to make some smart ass chisel comment till I got to the bottom of your post Kevin--BUT--doesn't Northern tool have something reasonable $$ wise???-good luck with that opportunity my friend. Plus, it'll get you off the friggin computer a lil more. :clap: toothy
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Re: Need a Tool

PostBy: plumb-r On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:34 am

Couldn't you set up a router to do what you want. I think they make templetes for door hinges and such. If they don't you should be able to make up your our router jig to do what you want to do. :gee:
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Re: Need a Tool

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:39 am

Be careful what you charge, place I used to drive truck for (Quality Millwork) has all that equipment. They used to farm out stuff like that but found that it became cheaper to have their own crew go out & do it themselves, the owner started out building houses & swore he would never do it again but times change. He had a cabinet maker there that would reproduce wooden bodies for some old cars or carriages, just beautiful.
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Re: Need a Tool

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:51 am

. Plus, it'll get you off the friggin computer a lil more. :clap: toothy


Hope so Fred. :)

Couldn't you set up a router to do what you want.


No, just the inletting. I have to make pockets at least 3 1/2 inches deep and 3/4 in. wide.

Be careful what you charge, place I used to drive truck for (Quality Millwork) has all that equipment. They used to farm out stuff like that but found that it became cheaper to have their own crew go out & do it themselves,


I am being brought in and tried out because they are to busy and have been sending the crew out to do it. He is expanding and wants an independent he can rely on for quality and work ethic. Presently working for another guy for the same reason. Things are going well as those are the things I had in my own business.
They are actually throwing more money at me then I expected! Such a problem! :D There is a lot of money here, and some are spending it. Surprised no one commented on a house with 35 exterior doors and 135 total! :|

Kevin
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Re: Need a Tool

PostBy: franco b On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:00 pm

Just buy the best tool. If things work out it will pay for itself quickly. If they don't work out you can still sell it for half. If you could do all the pockets before the doors are hung it would speed things up.
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Re: Need a Tool

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:13 pm

Just buy the best tool. If things work out it will pay for itself quickly. If they don't work out you can still sell it for half. If you could do all the pockets before the doors are hung it would speed things up.


Oh I will, I like tools. ;) These custom made units will be all hung. I am not sure why these companies don't buy the tooling and bore them for a price of course. This is the second company I will have worked for that makes custom doors.
Just looked at another one requiring a hand drill and it insets the flange. $425 for that one. That is affordable. Surprisingly hard to find these things as they are on Locksmith sites and they make you join and be legally able to purchase these tools etc. I just make up some stuff and such so I can see the price. I will deal with the other crap when I decide to buy one. LOL Christ, it ain't like the crooks don't have these tools anyways!

Kevin
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Re: Need a Tool

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:24 pm

My gut reaction was to suggest a template & router, but, ya know, Franco B brings up a good point. Buy the best dang tool there is & put it to work. Good tools are not expensive, they are priceless. I figure, worse case scenario, 15 doors a day. (But I'll bet you can do 30) So, 9 days work & the job is done. So, at $25 a hole $3,375 minus $1,200 for the tool leaves about $2,175 for 9 days work. In my book, that's darn good money. But, custom doors, custom holes...ought to bring $35 a hole so make that over 3 grand profit. Dang! I want to move to TN. With 135 holes to do you don't want to be fighting with a cheap tool that does a less than perfect job.

Best of luck!
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