Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:36 pm

This is an extremely well sourced, cited and written piece...by none other than a "Self described" LEFTIST. It was done in August before the Newtown tragedy, but it changes nothing, regardless. All the arguments still remain solid.

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/201 ... -tell-you/
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:50 pm

I too find that a good write & have no problems with it, Personally I don't see the need for them but if it makes someone happy so be it. My problem is how & why so many that shouldn't have them get them. That's about the only thing I've said & been jumped all over, if your that bad of a shot then good luck. Maybe you should try just going to the supermarket. ;) Seems like everyone changes this to a take away all guns things because they have no real answer.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:08 pm

Excellent article. I take back prior statements that all leftists are moonbat lunatics. This one gets it.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:18 pm

samhill wrote:if your that bad of a shot then good luck. Maybe you should try just going to the supermarket. ;)


Oh how true. Where I live you can tell the hunters from the non hunters just by the sound of their rifles.

Non-Hunters: Bang (then a short delay) then, bang, bang, bang, bang (which means the last 4 rounds went everywhere except for where the deer was).

True Hunter: Bang. (then a long delay as they wait for their animal to settle down) then Bang, the kill shot.

Myself; I cannot say anything. last year I shot at a skunk with a 9mm pistol from about 50 feet away due to my fear of being sprayed. I only had 4 rounds and used everyone of them. He still lived...and the stupid thing was in a trap! NO JOKE! How my brother can be a Sniper in the Special Forces I do not know. He has qualified for 3/4 mile targets!
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:01 pm

He has qualified for 3/4 mile targets!



Not with a 9mm he didn't. :shock:

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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:30 pm

Sam, as to your question why people need them...I guess to defend themselves against multiple attackers. People automatically assume "One person" assaults another when this example ( as featured in the article) clearly shows alot of times it's more than one. Most likely becuase thugs are usually cowards to begin with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhKCiY- ... r_embedded
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:55 pm

Sam, I don't keep an "assault weapon" with me all the time. I usually carry a .380 wherever I can. Sometimes I carry .357, a .41 magnum, or a 9mm. The .380 holds 7 rounds, the revolvers hold 6, and the 9mm 16 rounds. I didn't have an assault weapon according to the old ban until earlier this year, but I do have high capacity magazines some of them. I have a few .22's, shotguns, and some large caliber rifles as well. Tell me what you think I shouldn't have and why. I am law abiding and my background has been checked on many occasions.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:21 pm

SB, I could care less what you have, the only thing I want (if you own them legally) is that you don't sell them to someone that shouldn't have them. Maybe I should have said that you can't legally sell them without a background check. As I said I am a gun owner myself, I don't see any need for a huge clip but that's just me I guess if I get 50 cons attacking my place at one time I'll be in trouble but I'll be able to hold you off until help comes with any luck. There are only two ways here & once the crap starts there will be a lot to duck on the way out & most around these parts don't need those huge clips either.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:32 pm

Sam, all of my weapons are owned legally by myself. I wouldn't sell them to someone who should not have them. Those people are a lot of the reason I have them to start with. As far as long gun sales, if I sell to a Pa resident there is now law requiring a background check. (Not saying I wouldn't do a check just stating fact).
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:51 pm

SB, that's my whole point, private sales without have to stop. For long guns I didn't do background checks simply because they would cost too much & legally weren't needed but there were papers filled & ID copies along with the serial#s of every long gun & every hand gun was done by a dealer with a $25 fee going to them & the waiting period. I considered it covering my own.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:56 pm

Never sold a handgun without going through a dealer. Matter of fact I never sold a long gun to anyone.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:12 pm

SuperBeetle wrote:Never sold a handgun without going through a dealer. Matter of fact I never sold a long gun to anyone.

Wish everyone was that responsible SB.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: Ed.A On: Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:15 am

SteveZee wrote:
SuperBeetle wrote:Never sold a handgun without going through a dealer. Matter of fact I never sold a long gun to anyone.

Wish everyone was that responsible SB.


I think we can all agree with that! I think we can all agree with Sam as well, keeping the guns away from felons, wack-jobs and anyone not legal to own one.

There are more than we think that sell to gang bangers for huge mark-ups, as well as gang affiliated people (women included) who have clean records for doing straw purchases.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:13 am

samhill wrote:SB, I could care less what you have, the only thing I want (if you own them legally) is that you don't sell them to someone that shouldn't have them. Maybe I should have said that you can't legally sell them without a background check. As I said I am a gun owner myself, I don't see any need for a huge clip but that's just me I guess if I get 50 cons attacking my place at one time I'll be in trouble but I'll be able to hold you off until help comes with any luck. There are only two ways here & once the crap starts there will be a lot to duck on the way out & most around these parts don't need those huge clips either.


Not sure what you mean by "huge clip." As the article Ed posted clearly explains the clip size argument is really irrelevant. I can have a back back full of 10 round clips and do the same damage in just about the same amount of time if I'm a lunatic.
It's just a feel good thing for lefties so they can say they have done something to stem the violence. It's really just a load of horse crap. Frankly even I think a 100 round drum is over the top. Such drums don't work well anyway as they tend to jamb.
I use a 10 round clip in my AR15 at the range but I own a couple 20 and 30 round clips for it also. As quick as they can be changed it really doesn't matter much. I just bought them while they were still available. Could be a zombie apocolypse.
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Re: Why Not Renew the Assault Weapons Ban?

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:37 am

In wartime we got by with 20 round clips, unless it's for cover fire they very seldom used full auto, that was in combat. Civilian life I see no need for any more than 3 to maybe 5, if you can't take down a deer with one then your not too good of a hunter, for anything smaller around here I use a 22, most times a short but I did finish a deer with my 45 that some great white hunter was too lazy to track. Called my neighbor & he had it hanging before the next milking was due, gave him some more winter freezer meat.
If you have to take a second or two to reload that gives a second or two for someone to attack or run, no matter what we are not going to stop a deranged person hell bent on murder. Even in the so called wild west where everyone carried there were plenty of murders.
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