Now we know one reason why Romney lost the election, ...

I don't worry about buying "foreign". If everyone was 100% "Buy American", the economy would die. Just passing money from hand to hand doesn't produce wealth. Even if it looks like there is economic activity, a closed system is a dead system.

The issue with Bain Capital, and by extension Romney is he didn't "just" outsource jobs. He bought struggling companies, loaded them up with debt which he used to pay himself, and then let the company implode.

freetown fred wrote:wl, it only takes a lil time for some idiot to fall back on the race card--you're convinced BO did so well. Great, I really don't see it especially with the nonsense you posted.

kj-so you are saying that a person is an "IDIOT" if, they do not agree with you ?? is that what you want to say? romney wasted alot of supporters money, too bad, he was a bad investment anyway, as well as any gop candidate, would have been a bad choice for the country.

Not too long ago I saw the big cardboard tag that a pair of insulated gloves were attached to & basically the only thing large enough for these old eyes was a city in Ohio, when I get home & get reading glasses I find that the patent for the insulation is held in Ohio but the gloves are made in China. What I am getting at is the deceptive (IMO) labeling but even then I used my own money to buy those gloves & didn't try & get other shoppers to invest in them & say something like I'll get more people to invest & then take a portion of the profits (if any) & all else will be divided amongst them. Naturally I wouldn't tell them that if the gloves were crap & the Co. went under I would still get mine for the investment work I did but they would lose theirs. It did turn out that the gloves are warm & comfy but it was only my few dollars invested & not anyone else's. Then again Romney did save the Olympics but always fails to mention with tax dollars & that the Mormon Church some how ended up gaining most of what was there, for a fair price I'm sure. Almost forgot he did get all kinds of Union Bus Drivers from all over to go there & work for a few weeks.

OMG. NO ONE READS. The companies that Bain bought were dying already. They took risk to save them. A few they saved. Many they didn't. Kaybee was getting destroyed because they were small stores in expensive malls. Toys are a cut throat business. Toys R Us, Wal mart, and every other big box was killing them. So no, Bain did not destroy them. Yes, Bain did get people to put up money in the form of loans. Those who borrow must do their own due diligence. There were no ethical breaches.

Jobs are created by successful business. Businesses are successful when risks are minimized and products are in demand. Romney and Bain were bottom feeders in business but that doesn't mean that they didn't have business acumen. Romney would have been a better job creator than Obama without a doubt. Romney knew the obstacles to business and would have worked to remove as many as possible. Obama just builds obstacle courses.

Jobs follow from opportunity. In the last four years no net new jobs have been created. Obviously, no opportunities have been created. However, we do have 4000 new business regulations issued by the administration within the last month. Go figure.

mikeandgerry wrote:OMG. NO ONE READS. The companies that Bain bought were dying already. They took risk to save them. A few they saved. Many they didn't. Kaybee was getting destroyed because they were small stores in expensive malls. Toys are a cut throat business. Toys R Us, Wal mart, and every other big box was killing them. So no, Bain did not destroy them. Yes, Bain did get people to put up money in the form of loans. Those who borrow must do their own due diligence. There were no ethical breaches.

Jobs are created by successful business. Businesses are successful when risks are minimized and products are in demand. Romney and Bain were bottom feeders in business but that doesn't mean that they didn't have business acumen. Romney would have been a better job creator than Obama without a doubt. Romney knew the obstacles to business and would have worked to remove as many as possible. Obama just builds obstacle courses.

Jobs follow from opportunity. In the last four years no net new jobs have been created. Obviously, no opportunities have been created. However, we do have 4000 new business regulations issued by the administration within the last month. Go figure.

Of course Romney knew the "many obstacles". They were created for Business people just like him. Like Bush before him, he would have removed many of these, yes I agree. Those were put in place to avoid the debacle that Bush/ Cheney created within those 8 years that came within a whisker of sinking not only our national economy but the world economy with it. It's taken time to dig out of that hole and I for one am thankful that we'll never get to see what havoc Romney would have reeked. We tried that, been there, seen that and still got to the tee shirt. I'm very bullish that we are heading in the right direction and most of the markets agree. We'll see what happens with the "fiscal cliff" but the obstructionism the GOP practiced for the last 4 years is counter productive and has hurt the nation. Hopefully that's over and both sides can work toward prosperity reguardless of who's in office.

All I hear from you three is, the lord savior Obummer Sooner or later people will just stop listening.

plumb-r wrote:All I hear from you three is, the lord savior Obummer Sooner or later people will just stop listening.

I find it really interesting that he's in your head so much! Read my posts. I never ONCE mentioned his name. Not a single time. I only spoke about Romney (which was the subject of the thread) and yet you make assumtions like Lord Savior , ha,ha,ha. He's really got you by the nads!

Wasn't nothing in any of my posts either, must be like one of those melodies you hear & they just stick to ya. I hate when that happens.

samhill wrote:Wasn't nothing in any of my posts either, must be like one of those melodies you hear & they just stick to ya. I hate when that happens.

Yep Sam, only hears what he wants to, but far be it for me to judge if that's who he wants to dwell on. Could be allot worse

Still one more loser to hear from! Funny though you knew you are.

Excuse me plumb but I think the winning side is in the WH for another four. Just because Romney & yo-self can't come to terms with it that's your problem.

Thinking about it. I am glad Obama won, I would have felt bad if he couldn't get all those taxpayer paid vacations to Hawaii. And wherever else is on his itinerary. He needs to treat Michele real well. We wouldn't want another Clinton scandal.

Flyer5 wrote:Thinking about it. I am glad Obama won, I would have felt bad if he couldn't get all those taxpayer paid vacations to Hawaii. And wherever else is on his itinerary. He needs to treat Michele real well. We wouldn't want another Clinton scandal.

I'm predicting that Michelle Obama will decide to run for President in 2016. And that she will win!!!

lsayre wrote:

Flyer5 wrote:Thinking about it. I am glad Obama won, I would have felt bad if he couldn't get all those taxpayer paid vacations to Hawaii. And wherever else is on his itinerary. He needs to treat Michele real well. We wouldn't want another Clinton scandal.

I'm predicting that Michelle Obama will decide to run for President in 2016. And that she will win!!!

YEP!

Suddenly Homie and Sam have a lot of company as others decide to come out of the closet.

The re writing of history is in full swing as Bush Cheney are blamed for actions that Democrats were up to their eyeballs promoting as well, even more so.

Obama won because close to half the country are either employed by government or depend on it for their sustenance.

" The mills of God grind slowly"