gun owner map

Re: gun owner map

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:44 pm

Anybody following this? Now there starting to list the board of directors of the parent company and it's big media company with holdings like USA Today.

http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/ ... ment-17409
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: grumpy On: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:50 pm

I would love to see someone did up P Morgans CHL, it would not surprise me if he had one..
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:08 pm

They are adding to the map
http://news.yahoo.com/york-newspaper-list-more-gun-permit-holders-uproar-120534293--finance.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:37 pm

homecomfort wrote:I thought the whole idea of owning a gun, or guns, was to brag about it, ya know, " I am a gun totin' angry scared sob, and if ya mess wit me, I gonna shoot yoo butt, and there ain't no secret 'bout dat".


No, that's YOUR wet dream. You're just too scared to pull the trigger(pardon the pun) and arm yourself. The rest of us just want to live our lives in relative obscurity and protect ourselves and those around us if the need arises.
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:02 pm

jpete wrote:
homecomfort wrote:I thought the whole idea of owning a gun, or guns, was to brag about it, ya know, " I am a gun totin' angry scared sob, and if ya mess wit me, I gonna shoot yoo butt, and there ain't no secret 'bout dat".


No, that's YOUR wet dream. You're just too scared to pull the trigger(pardon the pun) and arm yourself. The rest of us just want to live our lives in relative obscurity and protect ourselves and those around us if the need arises.



Never ceases to amaze me how liberals really do believe in Hollywood as reality. :roll:
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:03 pm

Looks like the guy that came p with this and made his own FOI request, be interesting to see if there was any permit holders left out of the map the newspaper published.
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:17 pm

Public information or not. And it should not be public or even required to register a firearm, This is exactly why. The unarmed people are at a huge disadvantage. I bet a lot of them are 2nd guessing there decision to not own. This should be a invasion of privacy issue.
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:46 am

Seems the prison guards were on that list. I would imagine it also included Judges and numerous other public officials that would be of interest to low life.


http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/journal-news-gun-permit-map-endangers-officers-officials-say-1.4407323

Criticism of The Journal News, which published a gun permit database last month, broadened Friday with Rockland law enforcement officials saying the map listing the names and addresses of those with gun permits is endangering lives.

Inmates at the Rockland County jail are taunting corrections officers by saying they know the guards' home addresses -- information they got from the list published by Westchester-based newspaper, Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco said.

"Since about 9:30 this morning, I've been in a meeting with my corrections officers and their unions. They have inmates coming up to them and telling them exactly where they live. That's not acceptable to me," Falco said at a news conference Friday morning in New City, where local leaders condemned the list.
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:36 am

No doubt their will be lawsuits from this as soon as any "damages" occur, "damages" could be anything from someones reputation being harmed to someone braking into their home. Im not sure how this could even be fixed or remedied at this point.
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:42 am

The newspaper broke no law so I'm not sure what they would be sued for, NY currently has legislation that would prevent this information from being public but that doesn't help the people who have already had their names published.
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:58 am

Richard S. wrote:The newspaper broke no law so I'm not sure what they would be sued for, NY currently has legislation that would prevent this information from being public but that doesn't help the people who have already had their names published.


no law has to be broke for people to sue for damages in civil court... I think a jury of peers would be very unfavorable toward whatever department released the info as well as the newspaper which published it.

P.S. Rich, you must be an insomniac (like me) LOL :taz: .
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:19 am

They already do this to farmers.

If you receive any monies for anything on your farm; whether it be for corn subsidies or just putting in a ditch to prevent soil erosion, an anti-farming liberal group places you on a list located online by state and county of what farms got how much money and in what year. Of course they do not state WHY you got the money; just place that scarlet letter on you and your farm as a way to shame you.

I have no problem with this...if you take the money you should be accountable to it, BUT that should apply to welfare recipients as well. I think we would be shocked at our friends and neighbors who are on the government dole. I just do not think it is right that we apply a electronic scarlet letter on farmers and gun owners.

BTW: If this were to go into affect, I wonder how many Occupy-(insert name of city here) protesters would have been shown to be hypocrites?


plumb-r wrote:So what wins out when privacy laws and FOI laws clash. The answer is which ever law supports the liberal view at that time :mad: . With the internet someone should start a campaign and run that rag into the ground. Why doesn't someone publish a list of people collecting SSI, food stamps and unemployment. :) That will really shake things up! ;)
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:58 am

The current plan per the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... print.html

As opposed to the rhetoric during the campaign for 2008:

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-wi ... -guns-away
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:46 am

NoSmoke wrote:They already do this to farmers.

If you receive any monies for anything on your farm; whether it be for corn subsidies or just putting in a ditch to prevent soil erosion, an anti-farming liberal group places you on a list located online by state and county of what farms got how much money and in what year. Of course they do not state WHY you got the money; just place that scarlet letter on you and your farm as a way to shame you.

I have no problem with this...if you take the money you should be accountable to it, BUT that should apply to welfare recipients as well. I think we would be shocked at our friends and neighbors who are on the government dole. I just do not think it is right that we apply a electronic scarlet letter on farmers and gun owners.

BTW: If this were to go into affect, I wonder how many Occupy-(insert name of city here) protesters would have been shown to be hypocrites?


plumb-r wrote:So what wins out when privacy laws and FOI laws clash. The answer is which ever law supports the liberal view at that time :mad: . With the internet someone should start a campaign and run that rag into the ground. Why doesn't someone publish a list of people collecting SSI, food stamps and unemployment. :) That will really shake things up! ;)


I think your totally right, I think its only fair to know people on welfare. ssdi, unemployment, foodstamps, housing vouchers, etc. (after all, we pay for it!) where do we find these lists???
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Re: gun owner map

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:02 pm

dcrane wrote:
NoSmoke wrote:They already do this to farmers.

If you receive any monies for anything on your farm; whether it be for corn subsidies or just putting in a ditch to prevent soil erosion, an anti-farming liberal group places you on a list located online by state and county of what farms got how much money and in what year. Of course they do not state WHY you got the money; just place that scarlet letter on you and your farm as a way to shame you.

I have no problem with this...if you take the money you should be accountable to it, BUT that should apply to welfare recipients as well. I think we would be shocked at our friends and neighbors who are on the government dole. I just do not think it is right that we apply a electronic scarlet letter on farmers and gun owners.

BTW: If this were to go into affect, I wonder how many Occupy-(insert name of city here) protesters would have been shown to be hypocrites?


plumb-r wrote:So what wins out when privacy laws and FOI laws clash. The answer is which ever law supports the liberal view at that time :mad: . With the internet someone should start a campaign and run that rag into the ground. Why doesn't someone publish a list of people collecting SSI, food stamps and unemployment. :) That will really shake things up! ;)



I think your totally right, I think its only fair to know people on welfare. ssdi, unemployment, foodstamps, housing vouchers, etc. (after all, we pay for it!) where do we find these lists???



I would think that would or should be public record. I am not sure, we just need the media to ask for it the same way. But I am not sure they are the true enemy per say. Its the officials that let it be corrupted.
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