Stove Pipe Direction

Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: Bob On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:27 pm

I wonder if there is any code issue with how chimney pipe is installed???

I understand the rationale for male end down with wood burners--creosote makes a real mess if it gets out of the pipe.

I also understand Yanche's reasoning with the AHS stokers. I would add an additional reason with the AHS--the connection at the stoker is designed for the female end of a 5" stove pipe and because it is a thick section ring it really doesn't work trying to start with the male end of the stove pipe.

I would hope that given the design of the AHS 130 there is no code issue with male end toward the chimney.
Bob
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS 130
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: Paisan On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:13 pm

OMG!! :bang:
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:20 pm

DITTO with Paisan :clap: toothy Where the hell is Larry when we need him :roll:
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:33 pm

....I would think the folks that designed my stove and other stoves did the research for me. My install had the male end of the stove pipe fit in the back of the stove and thats the way I ran it, 3 screws and then aluminum heat tape pulling -.04 to -.06 no issues. If the female end would have fit the rear of the stove I would have run it that way. I could have bought a male to male adaptor, but why over think it, I would have seconded guessed myself after. :nono:
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:41 pm

Because I have seen some incredibly poor designs in stoves. I have seen wood boilers that produce the most creosote and condensate have collars that fit nothing you can buy.

Kevin
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:47 pm

KLook wrote:Because I have seen some incredibly poor designs in stoves. I have seen wood boilers that produce the most creosote and condensate have collars that fit nothing you can buy.

Kevin

..I understand your point, but are we talking wood or coal here?
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: plumb-r On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:38 pm

I had a inspector fail a gas water heater vent on me years back. Forget which state I was in at the time. Told me all male ends should go toward the roof. Just saying . ;)
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:18 pm

plumb-r wrote:I had a inspector fail a gas water heater vent on me years back. Forget which state I was in at the time. Told me all male ends should go toward the roof. Just saying . ;)


That is the way to do it with anything but wood.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:24 pm

I understand your point, but are we talking wood or coal here


We are talking both. I have far more experience with wood then coal. Wood was always male down, but if you had a bunch of creosote mixed with water it was going to come out anyways. People bought the cheap adjustable elbows, put the seam on the bottom, etc. Wood is just a mess. However, with coal I can't see for the life of me why it would make a difference. I bet you can find coal burning appliances that only receive one end or the other. Lets see your pictures everyone!
Hmmm, I seem to remember being told by someone that should have known to always pitch the stovepipe back towards the appliance. Never put it horizontal. The heated exhaust will flow faster/better with an upward slope and condensate will run back and be evaporated or consumed. Opinions on that?

I had a inspector fail a gas water heater vent on me years back. Forget which state I was in at the time. Told me all male ends should go toward the roof. Just saying . ;)

I have had a goround with some inspectors. They are just like everyone else sometimes. They will tell you something that is not a code just because it is their opinion or they are being jerks. Or just to prove their in charge. Just like calling the DEP and asking about setback codes for building near water. It depends on the day and the little hippie girl you get. They will lie through their teeth to save the environment. You have to know the codes yourself and decide if it is worth fighting about.
Come to think of it, I have seen gas HW heaters with condensate running down the pipe in old houses with wet basements and cold brick chimneys. I guess it would be best to stop it from flowing down into the heater and rotting it out. Pipe is cheap and heaters are not.

Kevin
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:28 pm

All I see here is a lot of opinons. Kind of like "should the ground prong go up or should it go down?"

I have the male ends pointing down to keep the soot in the pipe when I brush the chimney.
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:16 pm

[quote="KLook"] Lets see your pictures everyone!



I have had a goround with some inspectors. They are just like everyone else sometimes. They will tell you something that is not a code just because it is their opinion or they are being jerks. Or just to prove their in charge. Just like calling the DEP and asking about setback codes for building near water. It depends on the day and the little hippie girl you get. They will lie through their teeth to save the environment. You have to know the codes yourself and decide if it is worth fighting about.[Kevin=quote] Couldn't agree more been in the building trade, stated like a true mainah Kevin.
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: chester On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:31 pm

At my age the male end is ALWAYS down! :down:
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:38 pm

At my age the male end is ALWAYS down! :down:


Hahahhahaha!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Kevin
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:56 pm

I found it quite ironic that while I read the last two posts, there was a commercial for erectile dysfunction on TV....
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Re: Stove Pipe Direction

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:07 pm

http://www.motherearthnews.com/homestea ... ozgoe.aspx

Pg. 6 The hippies ought ta know. Female side up male side down. Missionary style.

Kevin

Can't spell.
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