Civil War

The gun ban, could it happen?

Yes

Kevin

No

Of course it could. How many times in history has it already happened?

But who is going to fight who?

How & why would or has any war been called civil?

samhill wrote:How & why would or has any war been called civil?

Is it shortened from civilian?

Fight? The question was can it happen. The answer is yes. And they already banned them once under Clinton. Sort of like when the gov. took gold away from people. How could they legally take a precious metal belonging to individuals? It was not a weapon, not a bomb, not a poison. Guns are much easier to take then gold, many people already hate them, but the fear of the fight has held them at bay. If they decided to take diamonds tomorrow, would everyone fight?

Kevin

KLook wrote:Fight? The question was can it happen. The answer is yes. And they already banned them once under Clinton. Sort of like when the gov. took gold away from people. How could they legally take a precious metal belonging to individuals? It was not a weapon, not a bomb, not a poison. Guns are much easier to take then gold, many people already hate them, but the fear of the fight has held them at bay. If they decided to take diamonds tomorrow, would everyone fight?

Kevin

I respectfully disagree to the comparison, there are a lot of people who value there guns much more then gold. I watch a lot of gun forums and I know a lot of people that just like to talk the talk but there are lots ready to walk the walk as well. Some are seriously trained and armed. I actually think the government would not have a very easy time, especially considering a large part of the people that the govt would rely on to carry out the orders appreciates the 2nd amendment as well. And would dis obey orders. Another large part would be to *censored* scared. But you would have a few that may attempt it. But after the first week that # would quickly diminish. I don't feel the powers at be would have much of a chance.

The other side of the coin there are a lot of gun owners that would not be able to fight fellow Americans just trying to do there job. But that goes both ways. I have always felt that if a ban and confiscation were to pass which I doubt it will, that they would try to bring in outside forces and that would be a big mistake. Outside forces patrolling the American soil for our own government would truly be an act of war on the American people.

samhill wrote:How & why would or has any war been called civil?

1861 to 1865?

Unless you live south of the Mason-Dixon. Then it's the War of Northern Aggression.

Thanks Jpete, you made me think of my great grandmother, she called it "Their War" or the "War of Nothern Aggresion" No kidding, really. To the topic, full scale war no, pockets of resistance to Fed law, I hope so.
Cracker

Silly me. I believe the topic is " The gun ban, could it happen?" Now, my question is--a total gun ban??? NEVER HAPPEN as long as their are true Patriots on this Earth. War???? (another topic completly) POSSIBLY---although I've got to point out that thems that do the most talking about it, are usually the least reliable. Just an old farmers thoughts that's been there done that. Dave, not an expert by far, but civilian sounds good to me.

They say history repeats itself, and in this case I think the repeat would be in regards to the Whiskey Tax in George Washington's Era, and to a lesser extent, the Prohibition Days. As much as Congress and the other two branches like to think they are in power, there is very little they can do (as they found out) when people simply ignore unpopular laws like those two cited.

George Washington is credited with putting down the Whiskey Rebellion, but that is not true at all. He was able to summons 13,000 federal troops to take on a 150 tax protesters, but the tax brought in little money because bartering was the method of payment in that era. In short, it was an ignored law, just as the Prohibition Days were. Look what occurred then; gangsters got rich on giving people their booze which is what would happen to this society with gun-runners.

Myself, I do not actually own a gun due to stringent rules with the foster care system, but my way of life (farming) requires them. If guns were illegal and it would be difficult for me to borrow one, then I would have to obtain one illegally. Now that just shows you how silly a gun prohibition would be; a farmer that does not have a gun because he can obtain one quickly when needed by legal means, would now have to break the law simply so he can continue to farm. Pretty sad when you think about it; government oppression is why my family got on the Mayflower in the first place and put up with some hardships while staking our claim.

I heard a civil war is where one faction attempts to seize control of the country. So it was actually a "war between the states" since the south wanted to seceed from the union, not take over the whole country.

Could a gun ban happen? Yes. Would it work? Hell no!