Coffee: Last one of 2012

Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:51 pm

Rick 386 wrote:Now Dann, with the track record of JCP & L why don't you have a generator gassed and ready to go ????


Hey Rick,

Just because I don't trust Sta-Bil to stop 10% ethanol gas from absorbing water and deteriorating rubber components and fuel lines. I've seen too many small engines disabled that way.
Also, after two weeks blacked out, when the power came back on, I wanted to prep the machine for storage. I took care of a couple of the same model generator a year ago during Irene. I got a little lazy on one since the guy said he wanted to sell it or give it to his son. He had it in his garage, and I ended up draining the gas out of the carb drain plug; but I left maybe a pint of gas in the gas tank with Sta-Bil in it. I thought about that gaff all year from time to time. This year with Sandy approaching; the guy did give it to his son the night before Sandy hit. He called me and his prominent lawyer son couldn't start the machine on his back deck. I called the son and asked him if he had any starting fluid on hand. He said yes. So I went over there with the dad no big deal. He had Sta-bil, not ether in a spray can. Mechanically clueless people. The machine wouldn't start even with a fresh tank of gas. I got them to give me a soda straw and a cup, was able to prime the carb and the machine started up.

I'm headed out back now to drain the gas out of the Generac, that's why I believe in a bone dry method of storage.
On the other hand, my Timber Bear chainsaw seems to tolerate sitting all winter and starts right up after sitting for long periods. Go figure...
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:09 pm

Dann757 wrote:
Rick 386 wrote:Now Dann, with the track record of JCP & L why don't you have a generator gassed and ready to go ????


Hey Rick,

Just because I don't trust Sta-Bil to stop 10% ethanol gas from absorbing water and deteriorating rubber components and fuel lines. I've seen too many small engines disabled that way.
Also, after two weeks blacked out, when the power came back on, I wanted to prep the machine for storage. I took care of a couple of the same model generator a year ago during Irene. I got a little lazy on one since the guy said he wanted to sell it or give it to his son. He had it in his garage, and I ended up draining the gas out of the carb drain plug; but I left maybe a pint of gas in the gas tank with Sta-Bil in it. I thought about that gaff all year from time to time. This year with Sandy approaching; the guy did give it to his son the night before Sandy hit. He called me and his prominent lawyer son couldn't start the machine on his back deck. I called the son and asked him if he had any starting fluid on hand. He said yes. So I went over there with the dad no big deal. He had Sta-bil, not ether in a spray can. Mechanically clueless people. The machine wouldn't start even with a fresh tank of gas. I got them to give me a soda straw and a cup, was able to prime the carb and the machine started up.

I'm headed out back now to drain the gas out of the Generac, that's why I believe in a bone dry method of storage.
On the other hand, my Timber Bear chainsaw seems to tolerate sitting all winter and starts right up after sitting for long periods. Go figure...



If you have a way of getting AV gas. When you are ready to store it run it out of auto pump gas and put 1/2 or 1 gal of AV gas in the system and run it for a few mins. It will be ready to go next time. Then you can just add to it when needed. Works with my chainsaws and weed wackers. Well I don't put a gal in the chainsaw but I keep a Gal mixed. There is no crap in aviation fuel.
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:36 pm

Dann,

You need the MARINE GRADE Stay-Bil. The regular stuff doesn't work. There are also some off brand products that do as well. The key is to get something that will prevent that phase seperation of the blended fuels.

Yeah Dave, AV gas works and some pumps near the coast also sell unblended fuels as well for boat use. I have seen some near the DE/MD border.


For me Dann it is working. Maybe the people's republic of NJ has some special ingredients thrown in the fuel as well.............................




Rick
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:54 pm

Flyer5 wrote:If you have a way of getting AV gas.


Pricey, no? I lost my wool cap so I grabbed a checkered table cloth and tied it to my head with a rope, and drove real fast into the airport. Somebody asked me where the nightly entertainment was, and as I drove by I shouted out "ALAN'S ACT BAR!" I can't figure out why they detained me.


Rick 386 wrote:For me Dann it is working. Maybe the people's republic of NJ has some special ingredients thrown in the fuel as well.............................


Nothing against Sta-Bil, and also, that tank I left at the guy's garage was mostly air in it, so a full tank would fare much better I'm sure.
How dare you call Hell Jersey a name. :D
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:25 pm

That sucks Dan - I swear we were separated at birth - we have the same luck! :roll: ALAN'S ACT BAR!! :rofl:

The fuel in MA is *censored*. Probably the worst in the nation. Even still, it's hit or miss as to whether or not your carb will clog in a week .. or 3 years. I've had the same fuel in my chainsaw for all of 3 years .. probably closer to 4 or 5. Fired up and ran after more than a few pulls ... but it ran and idled. I had rolled my 850 lb Polaris ATV over and had to cut the tree down it was leaning against so we could winch it out. :lol: Thank God it started or I would've smashed it.

My brother's DR would clog the carb after sitting just 2 weeks! Every time you park that thing you got to drain the bowl. My RD bowls are inaccessible, so fuel stays in them all winter. I turn off the gas coming home at the precise spot so that it runs out of gas right as I get to the barn. Still, it's been giving me a hard time lately, even with that tiny bit of fuel left in the bowls. Used to start 2 kicks cold ... now takes 5 or so. Carbs will be coming out this winter for a cleaning. Been 2.5 years.

My weedwacker & leaf blower all sit like the chainsaw - fuel in the tank and the carb, no stabilizer. They all fire up any time. Only had to clean the carb in the weedwacker once in 10 years. Can't mind that! My generator with all the treehugger friendly features has a completely sealed fuel system, just like cars. Even has a friggin charcoal canister. :roll: :lol: The good part of that is I can leave the tank full to the brim for several years and it'll still run. That always gets the carb drained as well, every time it's shut down. The Blazer has been doing quite a bit of sitting lately. That still fires up fine with the year old fuel in the tank.

I keep a 55 gallon drum of gas here. By the time I empty it (if there's no outages) it's usually 12 - 18 months. I haven't bought stabilizer in years. Main thing is to keep the air out of it. Certain machines have more air infiltration to the carburetor, and clog easier/quicker. That's my theory anyway. Not much you can do about that but keep the carb empty and dry when parked.
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:32 pm

HAHAHA most of us were separated at birth here! Turns out there was a tree down someplace and the linesmen couldn't find it. Guess I'll just count that as a drill last night. Landlord is a decorated veteran so I try to keep him happy with the property tasks. I just jumped back into emergency mode and didn't want to have their house get cold overnight. At least I figured a way to get the generator back in the porch without taking the door off. It's put away again and I'm leaving the gas cap off for a couple days to let the last drop of gas evaporate, then I'll fog it a little. The damn little round fuel guage window is loose, gotta figure out how to tighten it. Got a mouthful of gas siphoning of course. Always a gamble trying to get the gas through the hose just in time.

We have 4 leaner trees here that will have to be attended to. After Sandy, some neighbor/customers of mine had some out of state hillbillys get their uprooted trees removed. I was across the street watching them, they girdled a big leaner and rammed it with a track BobCat and kept going until it fell. Impressive but reckless. I mean these guys were Deliverance looking. I happened to meet the boss guy at another house, they had just finished taking her bad trees down. He asked the lady if she wanted some cut to length firewood pieces. I asked what it was and he said oak. Turned out they dumped pine and poplar- pretty low.
They came over here and gave a price on just getting our leaners to the ground. Very good price. They came over the next day and all of a sudden the price was more than double! Sorry, we can't do it. Sent them on their way politely. They mentioned they would be back after Christmas. They showed up today unannounced and gave the landlady another high price, but slightly less. I don't like that kind of bait and switch tactic. They started pounding on my door. Then they started pounding on my window! I finally went out and caught one of these dirtbags taking a leak on the side of my place. HAHAHAHA I just shouted out, "HEY THAT'S REAL CUTE, REALLY APPRECIATE IT!" I think the guy had to choke it off hahahahah. The big boss was there and I just said, "We don't have any money, BYE!"
A lot of townspeople have been complaining about non-licenced, non-commercial plate, out of state scabs coming in and doing tree work. It was mentioned at the township committee meeting on the 13th. The lady mayor just said "What do you want us to do, be the permit police?" DUHH yeah, that might be a way to enforce the law. She added people can complain to the cops if they don't like what's going on.
A local town got a FEMA free tub grinder that can eat a whole tree after Irene. Our town didn't have the sense to apply, and now there's still a disposal problem with all the tree debris. The town said they would take away any tree branches up to 5" and 6' long. They have taken a lot but are overwhelmed. So the mayor lady suggested that people put a "free firewood" sign on their street debris now. HAHAHAHAHAAHA I don't think there's a real leader left in this country. :D
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:56 pm

the mayor lady suggeste that people put a "free firewood" sign on their street debris now. HAHAHAHAHAAHA


Well at least one of them stayed in NJ and didn't move to Maine!! :lol: Good lord, do you suppose there is any firewood to be had right now after all the trees blew down? What a moron. Rednecks eh? You ain't seen nothin bubba til you git into some of the little towns around here. Sort of like Machias area. :lol:
Sorry GAcracker if your reading this, there just isn't much difference in rural folks as long as your far enough out in the boonies. And actually Machias is a lot further from a real city then anyplace down here.

Kevin
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:09 pm

My ex-wife went to college at The University of Maine in Machias, and told me an interesting fact about Washington County...no joke, and not stirring up trouble for people there either...just the facts. Washington County has the highest rate in the nation of children born with webbed feet! :shock:

We had a guy at work that was all pumped up about "The County" and we politely told him many times that "The County" is NOT Washington County. When we told him the webbed feet fact, he never was pumped up about home again. :mad:
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:15 pm

Interesting, my wife, my son, and my daughter in law work at the hospital. I have never heard of a kid with webbed feet. Sounds like the typical downstate badmouthing of the Downeast area. Experienced it a bunch traveling around to softball tourney's for 20 years.

Kevin
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:17 pm

Try to tell someone from Houlton or Presque Isle that they don't live in "The County". :D

And when did she graduate? I was around the University for years. Coached there in 2001 to 2003.
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:22 pm

Funny, when I went to college in Presque Isle, the biology teacher stated that the poeple in Washington County were "DULL" because of all the arsenic in the water.
I took exception, but I was a lousy student, so I probably proved her point. :lol: My younger brother has a IQ measured at 165 back in the day, guess he didn't drink the water! :lol:

Kevin
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:34 pm

KLook wrote:Funny, when I went to college in Presque Isle, the biology teacher stated that the poeple in Washington County were "DULL" because of all the arsenic in the water.
I took exception, but I was a lousy student, so I probably proved her point. :lol: My younger brother has a IQ measured at 165 back in the day, guess he didn't drink the water! :lol:

Kevin

We got the best water in the country! That's Maine's natural resource. Heck my well is 508 feet deep! I remember "well" drilling that baby $$$$! Awesome water though. Always cold and yummy. I've tested mine a few times and it's excellent. Down the road about 8 miles around Jasper Beach.......not to much. Navy dumped dioxin around the radar station. :?
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:45 pm

Navy dumped dioxin around the radar station. :?


Actually I think that was diesel fuel and it was the Air Force. Dioxin is unbelievably toxic in tiny amounts. But they sprayed that all over Maine anyways.

Kevin
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:47 pm

The house I own across from the hatchery in East Machias has Arsenic above the recommended levels. Drilled well, straight down through the riverbed, flows over 24/7.

Kevin
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Re: Coffee: Last one of 2012

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:05 am

Klook...just curious....how come your avatar says you live in TN?

Hey... I dunno about webbed feet, but my buddy from Franklin says he knows how to compliment a girl from Cherryfield: "Nice tooth!".
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