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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:29 pm

Ok, here is my solution. Do nothing. Thats right, NOTHING. There are millions of gun owning Americans and no single event or number of events over periods of time is worth changing the Constitution or denying people their right to defend themselves. Or just own a gun. You are more likely to be killed in a multitude of ways. Lets focus on hammers first and let me know when you solve that one and we will talk about guns. But please, by all means, bring a hammer to a gunfight.

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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:05 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:Guys,

Do you honestly believe that there will be an armed uprising to preserve the second amendment as currently written? What % of the citizens got off the couch to vote in the last election? You think there will be even a fraction of that willing to go out and play shoot-em-up? :rofl: And as far as those knuckle heads still flying the confederate flag, there is a decent SAT score if you added them all up! Size 50 shirt , size 2 helmet....... If you dont start coming up with some POSITIVE suggestions like the one out of Arizona, a volunteer armed guard corps for schools ect, then you might as well resign yourselves now and quit bitchin' about it. Just sayin'...... :alone: :out:

Waldo



Everyone says it hasn't happened in over 200 yrs. Oh but look maybe not on as large of scale but there were more just not publicized much. http://constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm

NOTE:: I am not pushing for this to happen or condoning it, but just showing it can.
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:48 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:Guys,

Do you honestly believe that there will be an armed uprising to preserve the second amendment as currently written? What % of the citizens got off the couch to vote in the last election? You think there will be even a fraction of that willing to go out and play shoot-em-up? :rofl: And as far as those knuckle heads still flying the confederate flag, there is a decent SAT score if you added them all up! Size 50 shirt , size 2 helmet....... If you dont start coming up with some POSITIVE suggestions like the one out of Arizona, a volunteer armed guard corps for schools ect, then you might as well resign yourselves now and quit bitchin' about it. Just sayin'...... :alone: :out:

Waldo

I agree Waldo and truth be told even if there was one, an AR-15 ain't gonna help you against the US Military. :P
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:21 pm

Stevezee,

Flyer5's article is really kinda on the money here. Thats exactly why we have a second amendment, and the fact is that the national guard is supposed to be our "well regulated malita". Thats why I dont feel the need to own an assault weapon , when the poop hits the fan Im heading for the armory. Too,from where we sit right now if we had to go to war with our govt. I think there would be mass defections from the other side, everyone's pissed at Washington. :mad: Meantime though everybody needs to put on their thinking cap :gee:

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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: plumb-r On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:09 pm

Food for thought. When Obama took office in 2008 there where 149 militia groups in the US. At last count, in March of 2012 there was over 1274 groups that were known to exist. If the 2nd was repealed does the number decrease or increase? :gee:
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:25 pm

plumb-r wrote:Food for thought. When Obama took office in 2008 there where 149 militia groups in the US. At last count, in March of 2012 there was over 1274 groups that were known to exist. If the 2nd was repealed does the number decrease or increase? :gee:


Possibly decrease as they murge?
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:15 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:Stevezee,

Flyer5's article is really kinda on the money here. Thats exactly why we have a second amendment, and the fact is that the national guard is supposed to be our "well regulated malita". Thats why I dont feel the need to own an assault weapon , when the poop hits the fan Im heading for the armory. Too,from where we sit right now if we had to go to war with our govt. I think there would be mass defections from the other side, everyone's pissed at Washington. :mad: Meantime though everybody needs to put on their thinking cap :gee:

Waldo



What armory? It won't exist anymore. If you don't have you won't get. That's very obvious if the SHTF. 3 months ago I would have laughed this off. after our VPs comments yesterday, and them speaking of stamping Trillion dollar coins with unlimited spending all done by EO. I am seriously worried about the direction of our govt.
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:19 pm

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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: Rwalker On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:05 pm

"Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without police protection is both. It is as cowardly to betray an offender to justice, even though his offences be against yourself, as it is not to avenge an injury by violence. It is dastardly and contemptible in a wounded man to betray the name of his assailant, because if he recovers, he must naturally expect to take vengeance himself."


The Code of Omerta.

When the *censored* really does hit the fan, there will be no police protection, no armory, no where for the sheep to run and hide. The police? They are going to be home, protecting their OWN families. There will be no law or order. There are not enough police or military personel to enforce the laws when entire cities blow up. Remember what happened in the LA riots? Yeah, that wasn't even a quarter of the population. Imagine the whole city erupting. The cops would run to protect their own, and if you are waiting for the government to help, keep waiting. Imagine millions of hungry, pissed off citizens. No police or military force will stop it, unless our government is prepared to commit genocide...I dont think they are. Now imgaine the other rising super powers in the world foaming at the mouth, watching it unfold, waiting for their moment to strike. Our military will be so busy fighting it's own citizens it wont even notice China, Russia, or any other country sneaking in the back door...

No not me. I will hunker down and ride this wave out. Good luck to the rest of you!
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:41 pm

RW, what makes you so sure that the Army is going to be willing to stand by & watch someone murder innocent people in the streets & burn the cities, you expect someone to not commit genocide & even give a thought to themselves committing it? Just do what your gonna do but stay away from me & mine, good day to one & all & here's wishing you all the bad luck in the world in your endeavors against our country.
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: Rwalker On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:10 pm

samhill wrote:RW, what makes you so sure that the Army is going to be willing to stand by & watch someone murder innocent people in the streets & burn the cities, you expect someone to not commit genocide & even give a thought to themselves committing it? Just do what your gonna do but stay away from me & mine, good day to one & all & here's wishing you all the bad luck in the world in your endeavors against our country.


The police did it in LA. People will do what they need to do to survive, that includes those sworn to protect the innocent.

I am far more of a patriot that you will ever be. Far more. Against our country? Show me where I ever spoke out negatively against our country? Please point it out to me.

The facts are the facts, and any police officer or military man is not going to rise to the calling and leave his wife and kids home alone, wondering if it is his own neighborhood that is collapsing. No, he is going to be home taking care of his own.

I constantly speak on the need for our citizens to be self-sufficient and learn how to live off the land and off the grid and not expect government help and that makes me some one with negative endeavors against our country?? What ever you are smoking is frying your brain cells.

I believe people should not rely on government to feed them, clothe them, put a roof over their heads, or protect them in times of disaster. Learn to do it yourself. And dont worry, when the SHTF, you wont see me. ;)
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:21 pm

Just the way that I took your Code of Omerta, if I was wrong then so be it. As for the slap at my Patriotism your welcome to your opinion but you don't know me nor I you but I don't go around saying that I am far greater than anyone. If the SHTF I doubt if I will see much of anyone, I'll stay put don't like traffic so I'll be no where near the borders.
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:28 pm

samhill wrote:RW, what makes you so sure that the Army is going to be willing to stand by & watch someone murder innocent people in the streets & burn the cities, you expect someone to not commit genocide & even give a thought to themselves committing it? Just do what your gonna do but stay away from me & mine, good day to one & all & here's wishing you all the bad luck in the world in your endeavors against our country.


Ah, the old "can't happen here" scenario.

I'm sure they said in Germany and Russia among pretty much every country on earth.

I bet the Indians thought all those treaty's were worth the paper they were printed on too.

The Japanese were probably lucky they only got put in concentration camps.
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:36 pm

I just don't see any of that gloom and doom happening anyway. I don't see mass chaos in the streets happening over some changes like universal background checks and high capacity magazines or even assault weapons banned if it comes to that. We've been there and done that. There was no riots. There can be no large changes with out Congressional vote. Executive order only goes so far. If the second amendment is "amended" again then so be it. It was an amendment in the first place.

RWalker I would be willing to bet that you were never in the military. Not the military I was a part of. We were trained to follow orders. We were not trained to think about whether or not it impacted us, our family's or any other personal position. We were trained not to interpret them in any way, shape, or form period. It's pretty naive to think that the military wouldn't act if called on to do so.
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Re: The repeal of the Second Amendment, could it be done by ...

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:38 pm

SteveZee wrote: Executive order only goes so far. .


I wouldn't bet the farm on that.
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