hitzer 30 93

hitzer 30 93

PostBy: AlmostThere On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:13 pm

my buddy finally got his hitzer stove he was looking for but seems to be losing all his heat. I am a ds stove guy myself so I am looking for some suggestions to help him. I've heard the Hitzer stoves are heating beast but it doesn't seem to be doing it's job. He has the stove in the basement and honestly it doesn't even seem to be changing the temperature. What's the deal? would a MPD help him or other suggestions.
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS
Stove/Furnace Model: Basement #4

Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:16 pm

Almost

It can take a couple of days if not more to get a basement warmed up. Lots of thermal mass down there and the basement walls and floor, if unfinished. are soaking up all the heat. Once that thermal mass gets heated up things should be just fine.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: 2014 Chubby Prototype
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Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: AlmostThere On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:20 pm

that does make sense because mine takes a few days being cut stone
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Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:24 pm

Wheres Fred? :D
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:33 pm

Lots of info needed--how big is the --to be heated--area, how does heat get moved around-- what size coal, where is bi-matallic knob set (back dial/thermo) where are ash door vents set--yes, MPD would keep more heat towards the stove area--how often is he shaking & topping off---a pix or 2 of the set-up would be real helpful---anybody sorry they asked where I was yet? :clap: toothy
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: AlmostThere On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:37 pm

that's funny because I was just reading post of his hoping to find the secret . I personally think his chimney has a strong draft which is taking the heat out of the house. he has a stove thermometer setting on the top and its reading 125 degrees on the highest setting. he is burning the same coal as I so I know the coal is of good quality.
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS
Stove/Furnace Model: Basement #4

Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: AlmostThere On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:46 pm

Coal - Ant. Nut.

The back dial is the whole way open.
I am not sure about he ash door right now.

The house is total 1200 square feet. Cape cod. The basement is 24 x 24 open concept - no walls. The first floor is open concept with no walls either. So the heat is not getting trapped. He disconnected his heat runs to allow heat to travel around his house with hopes to just use his Hitzer stove.

He isn't touching the stove. Allowing it to burn 12 hours in between shake downs.

Thats the info I have right now but I can get him to registrar and join the addiction of NEPACROSSROADS also. :oops: or is that just me thats addicted.
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS
Stove/Furnace Model: Basement #4

Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:01 pm

For the record, if he wants to get that stove going properly--he needs to get on the FORUM--with that back flap wide open, he shouldn't be able to get very near it without getting singed--should be no problem heating 1200 sq. something ain't right---get him on the site here so he can get some pix & questions up--as for you AT---stop adopting people, just head them in the right direction--kinda like kids :clap: toothy
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: fastcat On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:47 pm

Get-em Fred
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
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Re: hitzer 30 95

PostBy: bucksnort On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:29 pm

hello my buddy told me i need to create an account to dig for knowledge and to quit freeloading.

I guess I need to pick Fred's mind also.

Anyhow, we got my stove running at 400 degrees with the blower running on low. The back damper is wide open the setting is 15. I have the frontslots closed. The MPD is 3/4 closed.

Is this correct to produce max heat? I have noticed after my buddy got it firing hotter the house is increasing in temperature slightly. I am sure everyones settings are different depending on draft and many other things.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Basement #4
Coal Size/Type: Hard Nut Coal
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: Basement #4

Re: hitzer 30 95

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:47 pm

:clap: toothy--- Welcome to the FORUM bs & Happy New Year--sounds like you're doing things more then right--I'm wondering why you're only getting up to 400* w' that back flap wide open--coal's right up to the top of your fire brick?? I'm hoping somebody with a 30-95 will chime in here--hopefully Grizz. try cracking your ash door vents to 1/8 moon showing see if that perks her up some. Go to the right upper corner (search) & type in Hitzer 30-95--there is a lot of info there--time to do some reading my friend ;)
bucksnort wrote:hello my buddy told me i need to create an account to dig for knowledge and to quit freeloading.

I guess I need to pick Fred's mind also.

Anyhow, we got my stove running at 400 degrees with the blower running on low. The back damper is wide open the setting is 15. I have the frontslots closed. The MPD is 3/4 closed.

Is this correct to produce max heat? I have noticed after my buddy got it firing hotter the house is increasing in temperature slightly. I am sure everyones settings are different depending on draft and many other things.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: bucksnort On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:51 pm

Yep its right to the top and the hopper is filled. I will try to open the front an 1/8 and get some draft from the front end.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Basement #4
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Stove/Furnace Model: Basement #4

Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: oliver power On: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:31 pm

freetown fred wrote:For the record, if he wants to get that stove going properly--he needs to get on the FORUM--with that back flap wide open, he shouldn't be able to get very near it without getting singed--should be no problem heating 1200 sq. something ain't right---get him on the site here so he can get some pix & questions up--as for you AT---stop adopting people, just head them in the right direction--kinda like kids :clap: toothy

Here you are Fred..... I knew I'd find you on here somewhere. Hey, you know how well my 50-93 performed without ANY manual, or barometric damper. It performed quite well. As you know, it's now heating my parents house, and does it quite well. Yet, the stove seemed to throw more heat when it was at my place, heating twice as much. I have a very strong draft at my place. My parents chimney must have the "Super Draft". The stove pipe has been discolored about 3 feet up from stove. Anyways, I took your advise, and installed a manual damper today. What a difference! Damper is in fully closed position. Stack temp = 175*. Heat radiates clean accross the room at lower settings. It now heats like it did when I had it in my basement. This may answer Bucksnorts question on manual damper. Also, as others have mentioned, give the basement time to soak up heat. Also, in my opinion, the 30-95 is a little small when heating the upstairs from the basement. Your friends house is small, so he may be ok. Still, I'd recommend 50-93 in basement if no furnace. Re-connect the heat runs. They'll act as cold air returns when the furnace is not running. No, hot air will not rise naturally up through the heat runs. Cold air will naturally come down the heat runs. Install a big register in a central area (Near the stove is best) (Depending on floor plan, openning the cellar door does the trick). Install a good size openning in the cold air duct, high as possible. This will pull preheated air into the furnace, and circulate it evenly throughout the house. Allow the furnace to run as useual (Not on fan only). The furnace will not run long. Your friend will reep all the bennefits of heating with coal. One more thing; If your friend is running the 30-95 hard, it develops clinkers behind the hopper, slowing / blocking air flow. Have him clean out the stove, and start over. No need to run the 30-95 hard. All it has to do is preheat the basement air for the furnace. It should work great! Oliver
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Re: hitzer 30-95

PostBy: bucksnort On: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:39 pm

Alright, I spent our first night with the hitzer running and wasn't to impressed just yet. I know it needs to be dialed in but I should be getting more then 7 - 8 hours of burning. I can get the stove up to 400 degress but 7 hours later its about out and barely reading 200 degrees. It did this last night and it repeated itself today when I just got home from work. :?

I have the back damper open the whole way and the front ash tray area open 1/8.

I also noticed around the whole center fire that was still semi-red it was all ashed up. I am sure this means it was burning but does that mean it was burning to hot?
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Basement #4
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Re: hitzer 30 93

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:05 pm

It sounds like all the coal burned up.

How about some details on the coal source?
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