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PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:48 pm

I don't usually mess with the inducer. I set it then walk away, but it might be a good idea to excersise the motor by turning it up when I shake and reload.
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PostBy: ridgeracing On: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:57 pm

After following this topic, I have noticed one thing. When I reload and seconds later I see blues coming up, if I open my front loading door the blue flames start to go out, close door and they fire right up instantlty. I dont no if its because of less draft leaving MPD closed or what during reloading is helping?
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PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:55 pm

I'm On Fire wrote: I'd still like to find a snap switch I could wire into it too to turn the inducer off and then back on but I'm really not too sure what I'd need or how it'd get wired with the controller.


Something like this will work if it is in your temp. range...

STOVE THERMOSTAT

It is just a single pole switch wired in series with the hot wire to motor.
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PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:21 pm

I just bought this off eBay for my convection fan on the Mark III. Can't beat the price!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400378981407?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:25 pm

Good price for sure. :)

IOF would want one that OPENS on temp rise for the inducer.

The one above with capillary bulb is an adjustable type, for seasonal settings.;)
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PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:15 pm

Thanks guys. So, which one should I get? The adjustable one or a standard snap switch? The one Smitty posted won't work? That probe thingy from the first ebay link , does it go into the pipe?
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PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:45 pm

Yeah mine closes on temp rise - not good for a draft inducer. You want it to shut off on rise. Search eBay for OPEN ON RISE SNAP SWITCH. Should be something on there I'll bet.
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PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:54 pm

Thanks, Smitty. I found one that is adjustable from 130º - 175º that might work to turn the inducer on when it gets too low.
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PostBy: rustyrelics On: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:36 pm

McGiever wrote:Here's how they look in a Hitzer 82 with additional brick layer above. Imagine coal being loaded to the top of the bricks here. :roll:

Hitzer 82_RITEWAY_FURNACE.JPG


I'd have to look...but, there may be some tiny *nubs" that help hold the louvers tight in place w/ the bricks..




I can see this is a Riteway clone. I'm researching them.

interesting but the extra layer of brick is of no use, if you can't fill above the lower exit combustion flue. filling above that point would block the lower exit flue. then the stove would have to be run on the top direct draft outlet only. correct ?

another thing I learned about these stoves. you can remove and reverse the draft louvers, and reinstall them upside down. this blocks the draft louvers and forces all the draft air up through the coal bed from the bottom, for burning coal only. those draft louvers were meant to push draft into a load of wood. better yet remove them and replace them with firebricks for coal only.
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PostBy: KingCoal On: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:44 pm

i burned nut in a riteway 37 for 20 yrs. with the louvers in pointed down the whole time and coal all the way up to the top of the bricks. riteways user manual states them to be used that way and kept totally cover with coal.

all you do is dish the top of the fire bed in front of the lower flue exit. it doesn't have to be all the way down, i usually kept it about 3" below the upper edge of the opening.

you will need to have some sort of draft control for the riteway 37 or the hitzer 82 these are heat BEASTS with alot of radiant surface above the fire bed.

i never had any dampers on mine and i had windowstats active all winter long, i also burned more coal than i should have :oops:
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PostBy: rustyrelics On: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:59 pm

howdy KC, I've been reading a lot of your posts on the Riteway coal monster. we just obtained a mod. 37 stove yesterday, to press into service heating a 2 car garage. will be starting a new thread. I'm thinking about the mid level flue exit with coal. why bother ? the mid level flue exit was mainly designed for reburning the wood fired flue gas. my thoughts are just heap it to the top of bricks, use the direct draft outlet, and if needed us a mpd to slow down the gas flow. this Riteway is very similar in design to the old Homesteader that just used a direct draft side outlet.
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PostBy: KingCoal On: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:36 pm

you will loose far to much heat by using the upper by pass exit.

that will defeat the whole down draft principle. believe me, your stove will work best as the makers intended. i know it was marketed as a dual fuel and it's easy to assume that the 2 fuels should be fired somewhat differently, but in this case, the riteway 37, is a way better coal burner than a wood burner.
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PostBy: rustyrelics On: Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:09 pm

KingCoal wrote:you will loose far to much heat by using the upper by pass exit.

that will defeat the whole down draft principle. believe me, your stove will work best as the makers intended. i know it was marketed as a dual fuel and it's easy to assume that the 2 fuels should be fired somewhat differently, but in this case, the riteway 37, is a way better coal burner than a wood burner.


I fired one like this before, with a single top exit on the side, very similar grates, bimetal draft control. It didn't have a combustion flue or mid level exhaust flue. I didn't even use an mpd or baro, just straight up and out the roof. it heated the house for 4 years. barely put 3 tons of coal a year though it, most times only 2.5 tons, and it was HOT. bottom line the Riteway will still heat well with one inlet, one outlet. lets face it, we can burn coal in any steel box or barrel its going to burn. the Riteway secondary combustion feature was marketed primarily to the wood burning market. secondary air on a coal stove today is pretty much standard operating procedure. the glass doors on a modern stove have that air wash feature that is also secondary air. without it beware the puffbacks when opening the fire door.
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