SteveZee wrote:As far as prior to the income and property tax period, they were first introduced as a way to pay for WW1 costs/repairations.
The origin of the income tax on individuals is generally cited as the passage of the 16th Amendment, passed by Congress on July 2, 1909, and ratified February 3, 1913
jpete wrote:SteveZee wrote:As far as prior to the income and property tax period, they were first introduced as a way to pay for WW1 costs/repairations.
The permanent income tax started in 1913.
The US didn't get into WW I until 1917.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/business/hottopic ... story.htmlThe origin of the income tax on individuals is generally cited as the passage of the 16th Amendment, passed by Congress on July 2, 1909, and ratified February 3, 1913
Yes there were some attempts to tax income previously, but they were never permanent.
samhill wrote:The original income tax was the Revenue Act of 1861 & different variations went in & out ever since as a stated a tax by any other tax is still a tax, as now then they wanted an income tax rather than import & excise or even sin taxes, they were looking for something more stable. Jpete, you want all the Gov. gives & everything you can take but have zero responsibility since you want to do away with the Gov. by de-funding it what makes your ideal situation that far from being a cheating welfare slug? Since most agree the status of the career welfare slugs that contribute little to nothing but want all that they can get. & I'm not trying to get personal but where does the difference lie & where do you think everything that we all take for granted is going to come from?
samhill wrote:Actually Jpete, I have & will continue to do everything I can to change many things in the system. I complain about the long term UC all I can & I was under the impression that we all paid into it, if your former employer is long gone just how is it paying into a system for your hours worked?
samhill wrote:That's just it Jpete you don't have your way, nobody gets everything they want, life isn't always a bed of roses & yes I do want the protection, utilities, infrastructure & everything the Gov. provides for us all & I am willing to pay for it. There is a lot of waste & I also try & point that out & stop that & lastly you did take this as a personal thing. If your still paying income tax it's because you are still getting income but I guess you don't want to even do that so where is the difference? To me welfare is welfare, doesn't matter if it's personal or corperate just like a tax, whatever name you give it there it is.
samhill wrote:Only what you might call a deduction is the Homestead property tax reduction for some of us old folks. I get my Co. pension which was paid by me, SS which I paid into all my working life & a small Vets Disability check that I served my country for & that I would rather not have earned to begin with but that's life. Income taxes are taken right out of everything but the VA which is tax free.
samhill wrote:How would I have known which Co. you worked for or where they are maybe if you made their widgets for 40k rather than 60k they might still be here but in any event how did the Gov. (that you hate) cause this?
samhill wrote:My point from a long time ago Jpete but why stop at RI (which I'm not sure of) if it's the country you hate & blame for everything hopefully you'll find another that you can run to your liking. No , I (IMO own my home so no mortgage & my children are way over 18.
samhill wrote:Jpete, I never said that I never took a deduction but that I never blamed my Gov. for any & everything that ever happened, that's life I learned to roll with it a long time ago & try to do what I think is right when I can & not sweat what I have no control over. How can you ever consider another country? You would need another planet, to my knowledge everything on our planet is owned by at least one evil Gov. or another & they all have some sort of stupid rules so you would have little other choice. Maybe you could get a ship with an long anchor but I'm not even sure you could get away with that but at least you would be your own metal country for a time at least.