Windows 8 Review Anybody??

Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:10 am

This computer has Vista 64-bit. My old Sony Vaio seemed faster in most instances (with ME), even though this new cpu has 20x the hard disk space and memory, and processor speed. Go figure that one ...

After my last 3 computers, I think my next one will be an Apple product. I get internet issues like clockwork, every time the cpu hits the 3-year mark. Last computer had a nasty root kit, now this one is acting the same way. Can't win with this junk! :mad:
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:35 pm

Smitty I have had about 2 viruses/malware I'm aware of that infiltrated the system since 98 and one of them was when a I allowed a teenager to use my system. Some of that is luck but it's not all luck.

FYI the side by side cost comparisons of the hardware aren't even close, not exactly fair since I built this machine myself but even the $2000+ Apple machine didn't compare to the $1000 one I have now. It's that much of a difference.
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:44 pm

Richard S. wrote:Smitty I have had about 2 viruses/malware I'm aware of that infiltrated the system since 98 and one of them was when a I allowed a teenager to use my system. Some of that is luck but it's not all luck.

FYI the side by side cost comparisons of the hardware aren't even close, not exactly fair since I built this machine myself but even the $2000+ Apple machine didn't compare to the $1000 one I have now. It's that much of a difference.


I agree you can get way more PC for your money than Apple. That said, Apples machines and their OS are very stable and secure. I'm a PC guy and I use panda cloud virus protection. very little footprint, uses hardly any resources and you never have to update it because it's all done out "in the cloud". I used to use a kapersky scanner but it never found anything.
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:59 pm

My newest machine has USB3, SATA3 and SSD that is SATA3


Same here as I do game a little. I wish I had gone the 6 core route or and i7. But I have an overclocked AMD quad core so it is still good. I moved right past VIsta as my previous machine had XP. My wives laptop was one of the last available with XP. I was pissed that the relatively new HP scanner would not work with 7.

Kevin
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:13 am

KLook wrote:
My newest machine has USB3, SATA3 and SSD that is SATA3


Same here as I do game a little. I wish I had gone the 6 core route or and i7. But I have an overclocked AMD quad core so it is still good. I moved right past VIsta as my previous machine had XP. My wives laptop was one of the last available with XP. I was pissed that the relatively new HP scanner would not work with 7.

Kevin

I loved XP but when I got the desktop I have, it had Win7 Pro on it. After a few days of getting used to it I loved it. The library's feature is pretty cool and the ease of sharing with my laptop (win7 home) also sold me.
My desktop rig is an HP Z800 workstation. It's a bit of overkill for what I do but the price was right! Nice to have family in IT.;) It has two quad core Xeon E5520 CPU's which are the workstation equiv of the consumer i7's. With hyperthreading it's like having 16 cores. 12g ram, SCSI drives. Both machines (desk and lap) running 64bit. The only thing it could use is a decent vid card since it was a numbers cruncher machine and didn't really need one previously. It's a monster and makes running PhotoShop a treat which is as hard as I ever push it for rendering. I'm looking around for a good vid card soon.
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:25 pm

Steve, I have an HP workstation just like yours. XW8200 or sonething like that...it was $300 about 4 years ago.
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:24 pm

This is like mine Rob, except mine has 12gig ram and SCSI drives. It's about a year old. My Brother works in IT at a bank. They got bought out and the new bank changed all the machines with theirs. Gave me this one! :D Worth more than my car!

http://www.softmart.com/products/detail ... ch&expand=
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:25 pm

I've heard so many bad things about 8 that I won't be switching until 9.
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:36 pm

Classic shell is a good fix for win 8...
dont hate it dont love it...
sticking with win 7 for now...
but 7 home is limited to 16 GB ram...
Pro7 192 GB
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/5a518386-27a8-46fa-a85a-678b7c25358e/

32-bit versions of Windows 8 support up to 4 GB of RAM. The 64-bit version of Windows 8 Pro supports up to 512 GB while the 64-bit version of Windows 8 (standard) supports up to 128 GB.

Windows 8 Pro supports a maximum of 2 physical CPUs and the standard version of Windows 8 just one. In total, up to 32 logical processors are supported in 32-bit versions of Windows 8, while up to 256 logical processors are supported in 64-bit versions.

Our work stations have been std with 16 GB ram and 128 GB SSD...
Servers/heavy use computers 32 GB ram and 256 GB SSD...
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:41 pm

forgot to update this....

i ended up getting an hp probook 4540s with windows 7 through tigerdirect.

still getting used to it...use it about half the time, i don't have all my equipment software loaded onto it yet, but the big hurdle of the USB - serial adapter working has been cleared!!
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: LDPosse On: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:13 am

SMITTY wrote:After my last 3 computers, I think my next one will be an Apple product....


I've been fiddling with computers almost my whole life.. got started in the '80s on a Commodore 64 at home and Apple ][e's at elementary school.
I've had PCs from the early 90s until 2010. I was a comp sci major in college and now I work at a data center for a major PA health insurer.

That said, I purchased a 27" iMac in March 2010. Yeah, it was expensive, and yes, I could have gotten a PC with similar specs for probably half the money. If I could do it again, I would buy the Mac without a second thought. After fooling with computers all day at work, I just want my home computer to work. I don't feel like wrenching on one of my own. You can get into the nuts and bolts of Mac OSX if that's your cup of tea though, since it's a Unix-based OS.

I'm not saying that you can't get a virus or malware on the Mac, but if you're smart about what sites you visit on the web, you shouldn't have any problems.
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:29 am

CapeCoaler wrote:32-bit versions of Windows 8 support up to 4 GB of RAM.


As I understand it that's all a 32 bit OS can support. Running XP mode on a 64bit Win7 and I only have 4GB available out of 8GB total.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:08 am

Richard S. wrote:
CapeCoaler wrote:32-bit versions of Windows 8 support up to 4 GB of RAM.


As I understand it that's all a 32 bit OS can support. Running XP mode on a 64bit Win7 and I only have 4GB available out of 8GB total.

That's right. It's a common misconception people make thinking they will run 32 bit and be faster. You are limited to 4GB ram. 64bit is the way to go if you can and have some motor. ;)
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:14 am

titleist1 wrote:forgot to update this....

i ended up getting an hp probook 4540s with windows 7 through tigerdirect.

still getting used to it...use it about half the time, i don't have all my equipment software loaded onto it yet, but the big hurdle of the USB - serial adapter working has been cleared!!


Nice rig Titleist. You'll like it for the portability and for me, the ability to go in the porch or my workshop and use it. ;)
You're probably aware of the Win7 easy transfer software that's built into Win 7? It works with XP to 7 also (although not as "easy") but you need a transfer cord to go direct.
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Re: Windows 8 Review Anybody??

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:23 am

SteveZee wrote:You're probably aware of the Win7 easy transfer software that's built into Win 7? It works with XP to 7 also (although not as "easy") but you need a transfer cord to go direct.


I just directly connected with ethernet cable and was able to see other computer as networked computer.
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