alternate heating systems

Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:51 pm

Ya ok. I don't have enough money to pay for your GAS. Gulp Gulp..

The more I think about it the more I'm thinking the 260. As mentioned above. I could use the extra cash for insulation. I still want it outside though. Build a shed next to the shop. All the heat off the stove could help heat the shop.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:57 pm

So what other options are there besides AHS?

Looking big heat, reliable, low maint. Is that possible?
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: George On: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:00 pm

You can look at EFM. They have been around for 80+ years :)
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: Matthaus On: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:21 pm

I have a buddy who has two EFM 520s one heats his 4,300 sq ft house and the other heats his 3,000 sq ft shop with 20' ceilings and an attached rec room (aka bar) and office. running both boilers year round he uses 16 tons of coal. An EFM is a good alternative and you can find refurbished units for around $2500.

The Keystokers are good units and the forum has several folks using them that you can ask for information. A KE15 at 300K btu might be a good thing to look into.

Best of luck with you excursion into this addiction we call coal burning. :lol:
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:01 pm

Talked to the guys at Keystoker today and he answered alot of questions for me. I'm going down to Tunkhannock to look at one Friday, at a dealer. So it looks like Keystoker may be an option for me. Talking to the salesman though he mentioned the KE-15 had a 500lb hopper. Thats huge right? Another question. What about a chimney. I plan on building a shed/addition to my garage. Do I actually need a mansonary chimney? Would a Double walled pipe chimney create enough draft?

Thanks for the ideas and the answers.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:32 pm

Get that Dodge and Heatmor sold and you probably have the new boiler paid for along with all the coal you need for this year. Call me when it's being delivered. I'll help ya hook it up.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:05 pm

av8r wrote:Get that Dodge and Heatmor sold and you probably have the new boiler paid for along with all the coal you need for this year. Call me when it's being delivered. I'll help ya hook it up.


Bring that skidsteer down!
Lets grade out for a foundation for my shed.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:06 pm

cArNaGe wrote:Talking to the salesman though he mentioned the KE-15 had a 500lb hopper. Thats huge right?

Do I actually need a mansonary chimney? Would a Double walled pipe chimney create enough draft?


A quarter ton of coal is big, yes. Over 10 cubic feet I would guess.

You don't need it, but it will perform better and last longer. It may even cost less depending on how you go about it. A metal chimney really needs to be 316L to hold up well and it is very pricey. It will draft if its high enough.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:00 pm

cArNaGe wrote:
av8r wrote:Get that Dodge and Heatmor sold and you probably have the new boiler paid for along with all the coal you need for this year. Call me when it's being delivered. I'll help ya hook it up.


Bring that skidsteer down!
Lets grade out for a foundation for my shed.

Get up here with your trailer and we'll get r done...I love digging holes on other people's property.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:03 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
cArNaGe wrote:Talking to the salesman though he mentioned the KE-15 had a 500lb hopper. Thats huge right?

Do I actually need a mansonary chimney? Would a Double walled pipe chimney create enough draft?


A quarter ton of coal is big, yes. Over 10 cubic feet I would guess.

You don't need it, but it will perform better and last longer. It may even cost less depending on how you go about it. A metal chimney really needs to be 316L to hold up well and it is very pricey. It will draft if its high enough.


So how high is high enough?

15 feet?
I have a good friend who is a mason so the labor would be just beer. Maybe 20? I know it would draft in the winter when its cold out and the chimney is hot. But how would it work in the summer?
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:13 pm

If you plan on running it through the summer, I would say go at the very least 25' and preferably 30'. 20' I think would be an absolute minimum in almost all cases.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:44 pm

cArNaGe wrote:Talked to the guys at Keystoker today and he answered alot of questions for me. I'm going down to Tunkhannock to look at one Friday, at a dealer. So it looks like Keystoker may be an option for me. Talking to the salesman though he mentioned the KE-15 had a 500lb hopper. Thats huge right? Another question. What about a chimney. I plan on building a shed/addition to my garage. Do I actually need a mansonary chimney? Would a Double walled pipe chimney create enough draft?

Thanks for the ideas and the answers.



If you are going to fireplace gallery they are great people to deal with from what I have heard and from the little bit that I have dealt with them . When I was looking he didnt have any boilers there though . I ended up buying a used KA-4 boiler and think it is a real nice unit so far . Very well built . If you go down saturday instead of friday I will be around and I would be right on youre route down 29 .If you want to see a boiler working. Its smaller but probably built similar . Dave
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:48 pm

Thanks for the offer Dave.

I may take you up on it.

I'm in Montrose also. Well I have a Montrose Address but I live over in Forest Lake Twnshp.
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:03 pm

cArNaGe wrote:Thanks for the offer Dave.

I may take you up on it.

I'm in Montrose also. Well I have a Montrose Address but I live over in Forest Lake Twnshp.




Small world huh !! I am actually in S. Montrose . I figured you were up in NY somewhere becuase of Av8r being in Owego . Dave
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Re: alternate heating systems

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:08 pm

Flyer5 wrote:
cArNaGe wrote:Thanks for the offer Dave.

I may take you up on it.

I'm in Montrose also. Well I have a Montrose Address but I live over in Forest Lake Twnshp.




Small world huh !! I am actually in S. Montrose . I figured you were up in NY somewhere becuase of Av8r being in Owego . Dave


Nawww...my admirers come from all over... :P
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