How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:33 am

I have an old hand pounded 2" well in the basement (its no longer used for the main water supply of the house), Is their any idea's or ways anyone can think of to try to increase its ability for the purposes of a lawn sprinkler system? I assume its original to the house (year built is 1961), it produces water fine now and i have an updated electric pump and holding tank hooked up to it (home depot stuff, but the best home depot had!). Id does not seem to push more then 2 or 3 of the PGP sprinkler heads at a time now.... but i want it to look like Fenway Park :D is their any methods to get more water flow without sinking a new well?

P.S. I do notice some orangeish discoloration of the water after its not used for a long period of time? also... is their any methods to quite this friggin' pump when it clicks on (I put a thick rubber mat under it which helped slightly)

I will post some pics as soon as i can.
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:42 pm

The orange color would indicate either hard water...or old galv. piping...or both.
Short of having a leak in your sprinkler system after the manifold ( if you have 1)
... I would disassemble each head...check the filter screen and washers etc..
You may have rust deposits in them.

as far as noise....can the pump area be enclosed?
...if its squealing...could be bearings
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:28 pm

Are you pumping the well dry? Is this why you need more water?

If the well is not being pumped dry, you only need more volume of water moved through the sprinklers...not more PSI.
*rigar* makes an excellent point about debris restricting the heads/nozzles.

Is this plumbed in such away as to allow discharge through a bypass discharge point without going through the sprinkler system?

I have more info based on your replies. ;)
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: plumb-r On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:40 pm

If your able to run 2-3 sprinkler heads off a 2" well point and a jet pump what more do you want? In all reality it doesn't sound like the system is doing all that bad. Do you have any idea of the gpm output of the sprinkler heads. :)
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:26 pm

The reason i want more water or pressure (im not sure which it is i need?) ....anyways the reason is because i want to add more sprinklers to a huge veggie garden area i made last season and this area is wayyyyyyyyyy out back, BUT i have a couple sprinkler heads out their i can tap into easy peazy if i could just get sufficient water. I do not know how to add an actual zone and wire it in, not to mention i hate the thought of ripping a trench through 1 long acre of lawn :(

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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: Rigar On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:44 pm

Maybe to avoid trenching a new line you could change out the 3 you are using now to a lower volume/flow head....to help the 2 at the garden.
...but a dedicated zone would let you water the garden seperately from the lawn...if that matters

..some (residential) sprinkler heads have designed flow rates of .5 to 4 gpm.....(times 3in your case)
Like plumbr was getting at....that may be all your set up can handle.

.....just wonderin'.....how many gallons of water do your ashpans hold ? :D
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:49 pm

Rigar wrote:Maybe to avoid trenching a new line you could change out the 3 you are using now to a lower volume/flow head....to help the 2 at the garden.
...but a dedicated zone would let you water the garden seperately from the lawn...if that matters

..some (residential) sprinkler heads have designed flow rates of .5 to 4 gpm.....(times 3in your case)
Like plumbr was getting at....that may be all your set up can handle.

.....just wonderin'.....how many gallons of water do your ashpans hold ? :D


Hmmmm... I didn't think about the fact i'll prolly want the garden heads to water for an hour while the lawn much less :( *censored*!
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:50 pm

dcrane wrote:
Rigar wrote:Maybe to avoid trenching a new line you could change out the 3 you are using now to a lower volume/flow head....to help the 2 at the garden.
...but a dedicated zone would let you water the garden seperately from the lawn...if that matters

..some (residential) sprinkler heads have designed flow rates of .5 to 4 gpm.....(times 3in your case)
Like plumbr was getting at....that may be all your set up can handle.

.....just wonderin'.....how many gallons of water do your ashpans hold ? :D


Hmmmm... I didn't think about the fact i'll prolly want the garden heads to water for an hour while the lawn much less :( *censored*!

time to learn how to install a new zone and wire it :x
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: Rigar On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:57 pm

Dumb question....
...how far is it from the last sprinkler ( i assume you were tapping in there for garden) to your supply...
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:01 pm

Rigar wrote:Dumb question....
...how far is it from the last sprinkler ( i assume you were tapping in there for garden) to your supply...

the box where all the wires and those disk looking things are is next to the house, the last head near the garden is about 150' away :mad:
Is their anyway to make magic happen and somehow control heads separately without a trench 150' long?
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: Rigar On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:15 pm

I was wondering...you said you could supply the garden heads easy...is there already a pipe for them?
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:01 am

Rigar wrote:I was wondering...you said you could supply the garden heads easy...is there already a pipe for them?


Yes, their is a pipe that feeds the 2 heads nearest the garden i was simply going to tap a "T" into that.
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: Rigar On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:07 am

I just thought that could save you a lot of trenching... you only have to trench to there
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:33 am

You might also think about a soaker hose (in the specific area). These work quite well and are not that demanding (psi). I leave mine in place the whole season once I've established the rows and hills. The hose is stoppered on the end and has small holes through out the length. It just slowly releases water along it's entire length and you c an get the water to exactly where you want it. I'm one of those gardeners that does not water all that much. I've found that the crops will grow very vigorous root systems if left on their own. I only water under extreme conditions.
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Re: How to gain more PSI and/or water output from a well?

PostBy: fifthg On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:41 am

you can "frac" the well with a stick of dynamite.Have an experienced well driller with a blasting license do this for you.a small charge,strategically placed in the hole can fracture the surrounding rock strata without collapsing the hole,
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